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If High Sec Turned Null Sec Over Downtime

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-04-02 16:45:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
You often get people complaining about high sec, but
i don't think anyone's been asking for highsec to be turned into nullsec Straight

Actually that's not true; this has been suggested multiple times over the years...including a recent request. Like Obama-care, it's not a good idea but that doesn't mean some small segment of the population doesn't like it ...or that there aren't others who would play that way if forced to.

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cpt Mark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2014-04-02 16:51:28 UTC
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Highsec turning into 'nullsec' already happened. Look up Armageddon Day. For one day, Concord had a day off. The Universe Burned.

If you were there, you'd realize that everyone and everything has it's place & need. One cannot exist without the other (or severely altered)


Link
Solecist Project
#23 - 2014-04-02 16:56:42 UTC
cpt Mark wrote:
Jandice Ymladris wrote:
Highsec turning into 'nullsec' already happened. Look up Armageddon Day. For one day, Concord had a day off. The Universe Burned.

If you were there, you'd realize that everyone and everything has it's place & need. One cannot exist without the other (or severely altered)


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It was the last day before the game left beta and went officially public.

May the powers of knowledge and google be with you ... or, you know, just stay as you are.

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Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-04-02 17:55:43 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
OP is too young to remember Armageddon day.

/lawn, off it.



This! Also, if high sec turned to 0.0, people would just go to low sec!
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#25 - 2014-04-02 18:25:55 UTC
one word... HILARIOUS.

Complete shitstorm for whoever ends up answering the "Customer Service" phone at CCP though. Blink

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )

Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-04-02 19:35:45 UTC
BuckStrider wrote:
So I woke up this morning and thought "What would an idiot say?"

Looks like I clicked the right link.

One less stressful thing to worry about.


Dear Buck,

Dont breed.

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Doiry
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Kaidu Kahn
POT Corp
#27 - 2014-04-02 19:37:32 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
OP is too young to remember Armageddon day.

/lawn, off it.



Sure would be nice to have another one of those.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#28 - 2014-04-02 19:48:10 UTC
They did do this once before a roll back was fun : )

Tal

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#29 - 2014-04-02 19:53:55 UTC
Well I don't know if it would be as bad as the OP states. Maybe for Jita for a while anyway.

But one bad thing would start. Noobs would be getting swooped down on the moment they undock. And the people doing it are going to think that makes them good at PVP or something. I don't know what part of this I would be more ashamed of.


I have the skills and experience to survive but over that display of smells-like-underwear neckbeardery I would quit. Eve online getting reduced to one of those games where people who will gank noobs and have nothing better to do all day and the moment you start playing you are being swarmed (plus the "ha ha GBTW NOOB! We're so leet!") is not something to be proud of. It's bad enough we already have these people around.

One thing that gets overlooked these days is how CCP is obviously trying to blur the lines between highsec and beyond. The expansion is called "Rubicon". Rubicon is often referred to as a measure of crossing a line, and not being able to go back. The theme of this has involved the rise of the sovereign power of the capsuleer and the diminishing power of the empires.

Would it have made much sense if the expansion was called "we're going to blur the lines a little bit. Work with us here folks" ?

Just look at what new modules and deployables have wrought.


I think a day is going to come when the only way to stay out of PVP in highsec is to not do much of anything beyond the present status quo. Such that if you run a mission the olde way you won't get in trouble but once people start boasting about how many gajillions of ISK they make per hour using an MTU (which can be shot openly - a blurred line right there)people will have to make a choice: make so much ISK per hour without one, or take the risk of using one.

That with drone aggro is a stab at semi-afk mission running. And what was the number one complaint of the bitter nullseccer about highsec mission running?

The trend certainly looks that way, that if you want to run a mission in a few years and make more ISK than you do now, you will have to take additional risks, but if you don't want to take them you make the same then as you do now (maybe even less - who knows - how about that deployable in nullsec that takes your ISK that anyone can rob?)


But I don't think the calls of bored bubble campers to somehow get their orgy of gleeful ganking and kills is ever going to happen.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-04-02 21:21:05 UTC
THEY DROOL AND DREAM OF BASHING NEWBS OR UNSUSPECTING INDIES
THE DREAM DIED LONG AGO
THE DROOLING IS ENDLESS



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Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-04-02 21:34:07 UTC
Quite easy to figure what would happend. 80% of the players would stop playing instantly and CCP could shut down the server due to extreme low playercounts.
Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-04-02 22:49:21 UTC
As long as all of Sov Null became Highsec
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#33 - 2014-04-03 01:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Felicity Love
Cheng Musana wrote:
Quite easy to figure what would happend. 80% of the players would stop playing instantly and CCP could shut down the server due to extreme low playercounts.


Hey, 80% less server load... finally, an end to STOOOOOOOOOPID TiDi migration halfway across gamespace and into EMPTY systems where I'm conducting a nude sunbathing Op. P

Get OFF MY BEACH, maggots !! P

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#34 - 2014-04-03 05:25:34 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
You often get people complaining about high sec, but
i don't think anyone's been asking for highsec to be turned into nullsec Straight


No, no one is asking to turn high sec into null sec, except the sociopaths that love to kill for the tears, but they are a small problem.
No, the cartels would love high sec to be turned into null sec, so they would suddenly have so many more serfs paying massive tithes to the cartel leaders, who now operate as feudal lords.


Again with the pirate hate.
Leave pirates alone.... we just want to have fun.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#35 - 2014-04-03 05:37:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
You often get people complaining about high sec, but
i don't think anyone's been asking for highsec to be turned into nullsec Straight


No, no one is asking to turn high sec into null sec, except the sociopaths that love to kill for the tears, but they are a small problem.
No, the cartels would love high sec to be turned into null sec, so they would suddenly have so many more serfs paying massive tithes to the cartel leaders, who now operate as feudal lords.


Again with the pirate hate.
Leave pirates alone.... we just want to have fun.


Thing is, Jarod? They've set themselves against us in the most personal way. They've set conditions whereby their "fun" is mutually exclusive with ours. They've long since abandoned "live and let live" as far as it goes in the game. What's worse, they repeatedly state that there can't be a happy medium, and they keep trying to force CCP to choose between the two groups.

If they get their way, you and I, and all of our ilk, won't be able to play the game.

So my attitude is, **** 'em.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-04-03 05:41:01 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
You often get people complaining about high sec, but
i don't think anyone's been asking for highsec to be turned into nullsec Straight


No, no one is asking to turn high sec into null sec, except the sociopaths that love to kill for the tears, but they are a small problem.
No, the cartels would love high sec to be turned into null sec, so they would suddenly have so many more serfs paying massive tithes to the cartel leaders, who now operate as feudal lords.


Again with the pirate hate.
Leave pirates alone.... we just want to have fun.


Thing is, Jarod? They've set themselves against us in the most personal way. They've set conditions whereby their "fun" is mutually exclusive with ours. They've long since abandoned "live and let live" as far as it goes in the game. What's worse, they repeatedly state that there can't be a happy medium, and they keep trying to force CCP to choose between the two groups.

If they get their way, you and I, and all of our ilk, won't be able to play the game.

So my attitude is, **** 'em.

guys let's stay on topic of the clear plausible and present threat of the non-fictitious nullsec cartels please
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2014-04-03 05:44:36 UTC
Barbara Nichole wrote:
Benny Ohu wrote:
Quote:
You often get people complaining about high sec, but
i don't think anyone's been asking for highsec to be turned into nullsec Straight

Actually that's not true; this has been suggested multiple times over the years...including a recent request. Like Obama-care, it's not a good idea but that doesn't mean some small segment of the population doesn't like it ...or that there aren't others who would play that way if forced to.

link a thread that's not a troll or hyperbole
Serene Repose
#38 - 2014-04-03 08:27:49 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
This thread has earned 2 Yawns. yawn yawn


What are the maximum amount of yawns? I need to know where this fits on the Yawn Scale.
Five Yawns is the max, so far. We do not preclude the concept of Epic Boring...and we do have a sixth yawn available should the occasion arise.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Dave Stark
#39 - 2014-04-03 08:41:50 UTC
I'd honestly probably just unsub.

it would make the game a lot less accessible to those of us that don't want to join a 0.0 alliance and constantly get bothered by pings for fleets we don't want to join, and have to have an extra 30 chat tabs open to figure out if there's a camp on the other side of every gate...

simply too much hassle for me to put up with for something that's meant to be fun.
Cynar Pappotte
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2014-04-03 09:14:39 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Well I don't know if it would be as bad as the OP states. Maybe for Jita for a while anyway.

But one bad thing would start. Noobs would be getting swooped down on the moment they undock. And the people doing it are going to think that makes them good at PVP or something. I don't know what part of this I would be more ashamed of.



Already happening. Maybe it's just concidence, but I operate mainly around Didoxe (or however it's spelt) and there's been a noticeable increase in the number of frigate wrecks and corpses floating around; including mine but that was my own fault for trying to shortcut through a 0.3 system and not legging it the moment the overview turned into a flashing yellow brick...