EVE General Discussion

Wut

Im not following your logic. If the Nullies are so violent, why would this convince anyone that Low/Null are safer (though Low IS safer when you fly safe and know what you are doing, it isnt as profitable).


In a broad viewing yes, but I feel if anything risks to break "the game" (presuming you mean industry in High, correct me if Ive picked that up wrong) its the fact that High Sec CEOs on the whole are having difficulty in knowing how to deal with the Wardecs effectively, and also a lot of new players having to set up their own corps, which are easily decced and destroyed, rather than powerful Highsec Alliances taking in new members. Of course, righteous paranoia and fear of AWOX is partially to blame, but there are plenty of ways to mitiagte that too.

Love it..

EVE is a dynamic place. Things are always changing. Nowhere more so than high sec.

That's what keeps things interesting, in my opinion.

Mr Epeen

It isn't hard for them to drop by with the message that NullSec alliances can offer better protection, so indirectly they could be using third-party corporations to instigate a constant sense of danger for those that reside in HighSec. They can easily profit from the flocks of people that would simply join their ranks to empower their political intrigues with other alliances in NullSec.


Exactly my point; by causing difficulty to HighSec corporations, and new pilots they are basically destroying HighSec, and that's where a lot of people keep their alts to generate a revenue stream to support their main objectives. Therefore, it is quite a nice turn of events that HighSec is becoming less and less secure due to the LowSec alliances basically ravaging HighSec through war declarations. However, if you have any clear ideas on how to improve the situation then it is for the best that you publicly share these ideas as many HighSec corporations, and alliances are facing grave difficulties.


Bingo. If that's what many pilots will start doing then my dramatic view of "the game breaking apart" will actually happen.

You think that if you did as you believe they want that they wouldn't blow up unguarded freighters?

Really?

I can see your point when you make it like that, however it still doesnt really change that the (true) perception of Null is that its simply far too dangerous and difficult for an independant (as in of a Nulliance) group to set up in Null, even as a Renter you require more resources than most Highliances have available. I dont really think the Nulliances ARE looking for flocks of newblood, they are more of a "jobs for the boys" network in most cases, hiring from those who specifically go to Null to join them, as well as their friends who are interested in EvE but dont know where to start.



That pretty much does sum up my view and Im glad that we do agree on this. This however does lead to another few problems; successful people in EvE are loathe to let others know the secret of their success, and mostly due to the fact that its a competitive market place. Friends of mine who dwell in highsec do offer help, but they choose those they give help and advice to closely, mostly due to avoiding the opportunities for AWOXing and corporate espionage that this may provide. Its a vicious circle however.

Of course, if you look at how NO operate, they have organised themselves very tightly and very quickly, and there is a lot to learn from that operation, even for non-PVE organisations. TBH my opinion on NO is that is is a good influence on High Sec, as at the very very least their MO is extremely well publicised and so easier to work out how to survive. How many other gankers announced their presence or intent publically before hitting a belt?

Oh so you mean the same shiat that goes on in high sec every day will just keep continue happening.

/yawn

Wake me up when you actually do something spectacular. Ganking happens everyday in EVE. Writing GD posts that 'things' are happening that happens everyday isn't really doing anything but wasting oxygen.

QUIT WASTING OXYGEN.

STFU AND GTFO.

To harm highsec one must reduce the profitability of highsec production, to reduce the profitability of highsec production one must eliminate demand for highsec produced goods, and in order to do that would require something that goes against the very foundation of the game....

If you wish to truly wage war on high sec, don't pvp. If their is no pvp their is no loss of goods, prices will plummet as items stack up in the hubs, which will cause production to faulter, which will cause a surplus in minerals, which will drive down the value of ores, which will make mining less profitable.

Ganking more will help highsec, it will only create further demand for goods which will fuel production which will increase demand for minerals which will drive up the value of ore. If you really want to hurt highsec you have to hurt it's economy, and the only way to do that is to stop participating in and inhibit gameplay that the highsec economy is based on.

I was of the opinion that your posts were in agreement with mine until this

Youve pretty much torpedoed your own argument with this pile of tears, sorry