EVE General Discussion

how about depraved, deranged, sicko........... they are all relevant adjectives that describe that particular individuals actions

Private held companies in Iceland are required to make these available to the public as well. You can go request these and look them in at the register of annual accounts (or Icelandic tax office).

I do enjoy living in the dream world. The air is so nice and crisp here.

At the end of the day its all semantics. What ever way this is dressed the bottom line is CCP didn't like what they saw / heard. They didn't like the potential harm it could do both to them as a company and their game. So they took action. If we cut through the all the posturing on both sides and boil this down to the facts, what happened was unacceptable, and had no place in a game or as an activity related to the game for any gaming reasons other than to publicly humiliate people, read that as people not characters people. CCP drew their line and took their action.

The failure of the bonus room antics was in the eagerness of its instigators to reap tears in public in a way that had no class or gamefull meaning. Tear harvesting....... no problem GSF, PL etc all do this, but they do it with a certain class and in the game. That is what separates their tear games from E1's.

Bottom line if you want to harvest tears keep it in context of EVE. take it to coms and start asking for mayo s,eared pictures, and if your victims wife needs a paper bag to calm her down is not in any way shape or form anything to do with EVE. If you can justify how it is part of the game I would guess everyone will be all ears, but there is no way you can because simply put this was not gamesmanship or game content.

I used to be mad at CCP for many of the reasons you listed. I thought that if enough people got mad enough, CCP would be forced to change.

That didn't work. I highly doubt it will work in the future. Perhaps we were near a tipping point, I don't know, but I don't foresee that many people getting that mad again in the future.

So you either take EVE as it is, a better-than-most game with a significantly flawed developer (albeit with a few really terrific employees,) and play it casually when the spirit moves you (or until the game to replace it finally comes along, which it still hasn't 10+ years on) or you quit.

The annual financial report is, not subscription data for the last 5 days . How is that related to the initial comment about the financial reports being 'leaked', or the OP's 9th nail?

Honestly I don't even know why I'm replying to it.

Dont know much do you.

As I said, if you dont think that subs are important financial information, then you dont believe the product it sells and the volume of that product shifted is import to the cash flow of the company, which of course is nonsensical.

EDIT: THat said, you are derailing my point. How is a request the same as demand? If you request something, it can be denied. Pretty sure you dont have the right to any business sensitive information they are not willing to give.

Annual = yearly. So latest annual financial report is highly unlikely to have last 5 days' worth of anything.

See what happens when the players who claim to not be care bears don't get their way. THEY CRY. AND CRY AND CRY AND CRY. Keep crying. Cancel your accounts. There is so few of you erotica 1 fan boys CCP won't even notice.

1) This was delt with ages ago, its one of the reasons for the CSM and EvE own IA dept. They caught another dev cheating a few years back (i can not remember the details) and dealt with this. They tightened there policies after this incident, and tbh if the devs were cheating you would hear more about it then the 2 time sin the past 10 years. Besides, this was before you time anyway and doesn't concern you in the slightest.

2) Read above, this was delt with ages ago, thouse bpo's were removed form the game and the isk confiscated (if i remember correctly, too lazy to dig at the old blogs atm) and again, you were not playing, even if yoru roommate was, it prolly did not concern him either.

3) so? lots of people are douche's who work for companies.

4) Incarinia was meant to be phase one, its kinda how ccp used to do everything, place ground work then take a few expansions to finish. Some longer then others (FW) But due to ccp' having a change in direction money wise, the player base forced them to drop it. CCP for some odd reason dropped the original engine for this and went with something else. Did the botch the job? yes, but if you look at other mmo's of this caliber they will eventually screw up an expansion. CCP learned and moved on.. i think you should to.

5) This has been in eve since ay one, so i honestly have no idea what you are talking about. They also changed it recently to penalize people who do this, as you can;t just instantly rejoin anymore. But this mechanic has been in eve from pretty much day one, or at least April 2004 when i started.

6) Eve is not 'dumbing down' But there are new tools and things in place to make the NPE not as harsh for new players. OFC they still whine up a storm that they can;'t figure out what to do.

7) Untrue. You were not here for the great bot kill, and i think you missed where all the bots in jita were banned at once and jita was quite for a few days. CCP works to kill bots. isboxer is not a bot. There is a difference.

8) read 7.

9) Just because you don;t want Dust, or Valk, or WoD, or whatever else they are making doesn't means other don;t. As you are not a member of CCP you really have no idea what you talking about. Being an armchair exec is nice when you don;lt have all the info.

10) Obviously you don;t read dev blogs or post. They have said numerous times that cap changes are coming. There are a ton of ships in eve, and Caps are not the majority of ships.

Pretty much this is the post of a noobie, yes you are a noob, no 4 years in eve doesn't make you a pro. when you hit 10 then talk to me. Most of your issues were before your time, and have been fixed ages ago. And as had been said already, no one is forcing you to stay, give me your stuff and leave if you think eve is dying. Otherwise, chill and enjoy the ride.

CCP technically doesn't owe anything to anyone who has not converted. And most of them plexes are prolly in player stock piles ready to cash out. this is how economics works. If eve died tomorrow, the money for said plexes is used already, you won;t get a refund.

No finical data was leaked. An in house newsletter was, and others stated that there was a different version as well with different ideas how to handle the NeX store, but as they were even thinking of being greedy, they broke a promise to the player base and were punished for it,

Seriously, do some research before you just asusme.