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I am X but I fly Y

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#221 - 2014-04-01 18:18:24 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off.

Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#222 - 2014-04-01 19:22:59 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off.

Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps.


What the heck kind of colour is taupe, anyway?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Anslo
Scope Works
#223 - 2014-04-01 19:31:23 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off.

Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps.


What the heck kind of colour is taupe, anyway?

Brown. Sort of. Light brown.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#224 - 2014-04-01 21:52:54 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:


You don't count Nation assaulting Caldari State sovereign systems and kidnapping your local populations to be an outright act of war? Interesting; what other atrocities towards your people can someone commit without being labeled as an enemy to you and yours?

-Eran

When there's a CTA we'll reconsider.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Primus Aulmais
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#225 - 2014-04-02 00:13:50 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
A Dragonaur attempting to lecture someone on ethics and morality? That's pretty rich. Maybe I'll join the Bloody Hands and come back in here spouting off.

Don't. Red's not a good colour for your hands. I think they'd look much better in a pale taupe, perhaps.

I find that I would disagree with that assessment - Ms. Rella would, in my own opinion, look exceptionally fetching in carmine satin arm-length gloves matched to a satin strapless evening dress of the same color... Blink

It would also be practical, as the color would serve to make any blood stains more difficult to spot via casual observation and/or at a distance.
Foley Aberas Jones
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#226 - 2014-04-03 11:42:58 UTC
so it seems the conversation has died down.....

Bring in the dancing lobsters!

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#227 - 2014-04-04 12:54:00 UTC
Stitcher wrote:

I'm not willing to call Pyre terrorists or criminals, but I am damn well willing to call YOU one.

Maybe you will name when exactly and which terrorist or criminal act he did commit or participated in. You know, at least one definite terror act and one proven criminal act. Facts only, that can be verified, not just words or rumors. You get it, right?

Because without it, you know, your words are just disgraceful slanders.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#228 - 2014-04-04 14:22:00 UTC
I assume you mean that I should provide examples BESIDES his vocal political support of a terrorist organisation up to and including wearing their name?

That would seem to be superfluous.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#229 - 2014-04-04 14:36:15 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
I assume you mean that I should provide examples BESIDES his vocal political support of a terrorist organisation up to and including wearing their name?

That would seem to be superfluous.

Facts please, or apologizes to him, of course, if you have at least a remaining bits of honor.
His words will do, but only if they will be about his participation in a verifiable act of terrorism and crime.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#230 - 2014-04-04 14:39:25 UTC
he named his corporation "Dragonaurs".

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#231 - 2014-04-04 16:19:16 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
he named his corporation "Dragonaurs".

Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read?
I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#232 - 2014-04-04 17:26:38 UTC
Didn't Horn-haan fly against the CEP during the Executor's last stand?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#233 - 2014-04-04 18:03:33 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Didn't Horn-haan fly against the CEP during the Executor's last stand?

Well, sort of?

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#234 - 2014-04-05 01:47:30 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
he named his corporation "Dragonaurs".

Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read?
I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one.


Associating with a known terrorist organisation, espousing their doctrine and expressing support for their cause IS a crime, under anti-terrorism laws.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Agiri Falken
Akagi Initiative
#235 - 2014-04-05 01:55:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Agiri Falken
Stitcher wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
he named his corporation "Dragonaurs".

Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read?
I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one.


Associating with a known terrorist organisation, espousing their doctrine and expressing support for their cause IS a crime, under anti-terrorism laws.

Come on Hakatain-haan, since when have inconvenient facts gotten in the way of rabid belief in the Dogma o' Heth? P

Addendum: I was just thinking... To the best of my knowledge, the Dragonaurs were still classified as an ultranationalist terrorist organization during Heths time in office. That never changed. They just operated under the CPD banner, or as unidentified mercs.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#236 - 2014-04-05 06:47:57 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
Stitcher wrote:
he named his corporation "Dragonaurs".

Mr. Verin, what part of my question was hard to read?
I asked about facts, where he himself committed an act of terror and crime, or facts about him participating in one.


Associating with a known terrorist organisation, espousing their doctrine and expressing support for their cause IS a crime, under anti-terrorism laws.

Mr. Verin, are we talking on different languages? Translators stopped working on your side?
Can you provide a fact or his own confession in COMMITTING any terror ACT, or you just loudmouth him, because he belongs to patriotic organization you don't LIKE?

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#237 - 2014-04-05 14:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Goalposts are being moved here. First you asked me to mention any act of terrorism or crime he committed, which I did.

Next you asked me to mention any crime AND act of terrorism, so I explained that the crime was under terrorism laws.

Now you're asking for just the act.

If you are a member or vocal supporter of a terrorist cell, then you are yourself a terrorist. The only distinction governed by performing an actual act of terrorism is whether or not you're a successful terrorist.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#238 - 2014-04-05 23:34:44 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Goalposts are being moved here. First you asked me to mention any act of terrorism or crime he committed, which I did.

Next you asked me to mention any crime AND act of terrorism, so I explained that the crime was under terrorism laws.

Now you're asking for just the act.

If you are a member or vocal supporter of a terrorist cell, then you are yourself a terrorist. The only distinction governed by performing an actual act of terrorism is whether or not you're a successful terrorist.

Mr. Verin...

I strongly recommend you review your reading skills, since in the whole first question I asked you provide with acts of both criminal and terror acts, I have even underlined word "and", while you yelp here like I asked to provide only one of these.

Besides, your "crime" under terrorism laws is still invalid, because he associated himself not with terrorists, but rather with old Raata patriotic partisan organization.

Thus I again ask to provide both facts of crime and terror acts of him, or apologize to him.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.