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I am X but I fly Y

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Ghelisis Achasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-28 22:18:48 UTC
...In my case, I am Gallente, I am a proud Gallente citizen. However, aside from corporation doctrine, I choose to fly Caldari ships. Why?

When a station agent offers me a mission that requires me to destroy the Caldari (my favorite kind), having a Caldari ship (running silent, of course) makes those dogs think they are getting reinforcements - until that first missile salvo. I find it is easier on me personally, since they see Caldari warp in, they are hesitant to fire. They only know something is up when they see those cruise missiles heading their way. Gallente liberties MUST be upheld.

Oh I have picked up some of their escape pods of course, but they are never treated to a warm welcome on MY ship. The cargo hold crew usually subdues them and into the brig they go. I prefer to collect my bounties with my prey alive. Then, station security can have their way with 'em.

I agree, this type of thing is similar to the Guristas pirate doctrine, only I REALLY dislike pirates also, and nothing makes me happier than seeing a Serpentis vessel shooting flames from various decks. I have also gone toe-to-toe with the Blood Raiders on occasion, and probably utterly confused some of their cruiser captains that find their ships going down to one of my Incursi.

But mostly, I just love duping the Caldari. Taking one of the States ships and turning it against the State is one of many things I LOOOOVE to do.

If anyone does similar, I would love to hear their story!
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2014-03-28 23:26:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
I prefer to fly Caldari ships as well, but mostly because I wouldn't be seen dead in one of those floating phallic symbols that Roden and his ilk seem to enjoy designing and building.

Personally I love using my Caldari ship to stomp Gallente ships flat - because they seem to expect to be outclassed (given how hard they try to escape) and then, having given them a chance to prove themselves halfway competent, you get them anyway. I always pick up Prisoners of War from their ships, because we signed the Interstellar Law of Arms that requires us not to leave them to die in Space. It's especially amusing when we treat them with dignity and humanity - despite the propaganda they've been filled with that makes them expect harsh treatment.

How I laugh as they're escorted to reasonably sized secure-quarters and provided with replacement clothing and warm food! And the look on their faces as we offload them at an independently monitored Prisoner of War facilitly, where they are given productive work to perform whilst the repatriation process is underway.

Using my Caldari ships to completely outclass Gallente pilots as both combat pilots AND decent human beings is something I just LOOOOOVE to do.

Not for your crews, if I find you though, Msr Achasse. Given your behaviour, I'm going to reclass you as a Pirate - and as such your crew will forfeit their rights and any privileges. For crews like yours, we have an arrangement with TSF whereby we can swap them for Caldari POWs before they go into Nation's vats for processing. Sleep well.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#3 - 2014-03-28 23:32:03 UTC
I don't know man. I just fly whatever is most effective for the job at hand.

Looking forward to meeting your crew!
Dapheni Daphiti
Khanid Engineering Industries
#4 - 2014-03-28 23:53:57 UTC
I try to fly solely Kingdom ships, but considering the training required to pilot the various models takes some time to complete, I make do with regular Amarr ships. The technology may not necessarily be up to the standards I'm used to, but they work in a pinch.

When it comes to those baseliners I find floating in space, the Caldari are given over to the State least I invoke their ire. The Gallente, Minmatar and Amarr go to the slave pens and re-education programs. As long as my manufactoriums are in lowsec, the officials are keen to look the other way, when they even find out. It's a delicious irony to be running production facilities in the privacy of my hanger using a predominately Gallente workforce while aborad a Gallente station.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-03-28 23:55:53 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
For crews like yours, we have an arrangement with TSF whereby we can swap them for Caldari POWs before they go into Nation's vats for processing. Sleep well.

Wow.

I don't think I've ever completely lost respect for an entire organisation and every individual associated with it so quickly or nonchalantly before.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2014-03-28 23:58:59 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
For crews like yours, we have an arrangement with TSF whereby we can swap them for Caldari POWs before they go into Nation's vats for processing. Sleep well.

Wow.

I don't think I've ever completely lost respect for an entire organisation and every individual associated with it so quickly or nonchalantly before.


The people we rescue tend to think differently. And really, the penalty for Piracy is death anyway, isn't it?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#7 - 2014-03-28 23:59:54 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
For crews like yours, we have an arrangement with TSF whereby we can swap them for Caldari POWs before they go into Nation's vats for processing. Sleep well.

Wow.

I don't think I've ever completely lost respect for an entire organisation and every individual associated with it so quickly or nonchalantly before.


Yea....I agree with grumpy here. What the hell; do you actually swap people with Nation?

-Eran
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2014-03-29 00:01:48 UTC
This information has been public domain for months and months.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#9 - 2014-03-29 00:03:23 UTC
Well I may be the last to know but it is no less disappointing to find out.

Hm, well this changes my perspective on a few things...

-Eran
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-03-29 00:06:01 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
The people we rescue tend to think differently. And really, the penalty for Piracy is death anyway, isn't it?

Pieter, do not let my calm demeanor fool you. I am absolutely livid right now. I've just gotten better at controlling my emotions.

I'm angry on four counts:
1. You've just demonstrated that one of Diana Kim's insane, paranoid rantings (namely, that Pyre-Falcon are in league with Sansha's Nation) was actually correct and in that dismissing it out of hand like I usually do I was actually in the wrong about her for once, which is monumentally embarassing.

2. You're equating giving people to Sansha's Nation to death, whereas in fact death would be a far, far preferable alternative.

3. You're giving people to Sansha's Nation.

4. You're smugly boasting about giving people to Sansha's Nation.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#11 - 2014-03-29 00:08:29 UTC
I'm not smugly boasting about it, I'm just done trying to dance around the issue, Andreus.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-03-29 00:14:34 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I'm not smugly boasting about it, I'm just done trying to dance around the issue, Andreus.

Oh, forgive me, Pieter. You're trading people to the Sansha's Nation but at least you're being honest about it.

That changes things entirely.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2014-03-29 00:17:50 UTC
Now you're acting like it was my decision.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-03-29 00:21:08 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Now you're acting like it was my decision.

It may not have been your decision to begin doing it, but it was and remains your decision whether to continue participating in it.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2014-03-29 00:22:51 UTC
Life is very seldom about one thing, Andreus. If you think the decision to abandon my kirjuun, my wife and my crews can be made so simply, on behalf of people I don't have even a shred of loyalty to...

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-03-29 00:36:30 UTC
What use is the loyalty of an honourable man to a cause that's doing dishonourable things, Pieter?

It doesn't get much more dishonourable than trading people to Nation, no matter what rationalisations are given.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Vectra Sharpe
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-03-29 02:52:01 UTC
Pieter... I know I only met you but once such a long time ago, and you probably don't remember me, but this is not something I would've expected from you. I'm not condoning Pilot Achasse's brash statement or attitude, but handing people over to Nation.... It seems beneath you. Those peoples have wives and children too.

Sorry, I know this is straying from the initial topic. In response to the title of this thread, I have to say that I too prefer State vessels, if I am flying anything larger than a Destroyer-class vessel. Even though I graduated in Gallente ships, I never could get over how backwards the systems felt to me. Not only that, but since I do like to spend a fair amount if time among my crew when possible, I find that the straightforward layout of Caldari deck design is much easier for me to navigate without feeling like I'm walking in circles.

I will admit though, I do not usually get a warm welcome at most system gates I traverse near my homeworld. Especially after last year's events in Luminaire.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#18 - 2014-03-29 03:52:08 UTC
Uh, ok. This got derailed faster then I thought it would...


On topic, I am Gallente and I fly Amarr.... For the lasers, I like lasers.... And cake, but that has little to do with anything.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2014-03-29 04:09:26 UTC
I get the "coolness" factor of Amarr lasers, and the novelty of flying around in Minmatar ships that don't look like they should even be able to function, but this love affair with Caldari ships just baffles me. Flying those things feels like working in a giant space-cubicle.

Really my only complaint is that, for some reason, the Thorax-hull ships vibrate too much.
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#20 - 2014-03-29 04:15:29 UTC
It's habit grown to include reason, in my case, that I fly Caldari hulls. It's what I was trained in, and what I'm comfortable with. They're efficient, and I like the versatility of missile systems. Still, I'm considering giving Gallente or Amarrian hulls a go, before too long, to expand my repertoire.

...And regarding vibrating Thorax hulls... I'm sure it's all for her pleasure.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

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