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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1561 - 2014-03-29 21:10:18 UTC
Liese Shardani wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
It's pretty easy to state that under no circumstance would I turn to racial abuse since I'm not in any way a racist. When you are pushed you tend to strike out more instinctively and say things before your mind has filtered them. Racist remarks are not filtered out during my every day speech, they are simply not generated to begin with, so while I may use a vast array of selected profanities when pushed beyond a limit, there is no situation ever in which I would hurl racist abuse voluntarily, regardless of my level of stress.

I certainly wouldn't use them in the way they were used on the recording. Have you actually listened to it? They are not just the odd word thrown out in a moment of anger, they are calculated racist attacks.
Yes, I've listened to several of the audios.

Sohkar's invective was racist, yes, but the real motivator sounded to me like utter desperation. He was completely out of rope, and that's all he had. He had lost lost lost and LOST to those guys for TWO HOURS, and nothing he tried had worked.

I doubt I'd ever say anything racist, since that's not how I roll, but I do entertain the possibility that a situation so eff-ed up could come along that I'd be desperate and freaked out enough to say some stuff I'd NEVER imagine coming out of my mouth.

I'll add that this is exactly the reaction these individuals are hoping to provoke out of their victims. It's extra gravy when they can get the victim to rage-quit or banned for raging. They want to inflict as much real life damage as possible under the pretense that "it's just pixels", and then turn around and claim that they are the ones that are well-adjusted in real life. I think Erotica 1 claimed at some point he's a good "Catholic" who helps the needy in real life, implying he isn't capable of such malice in the real world. He's either incapable of differentiating between in-game and real life or is using deception to excuse his twisted behavior.

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Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#1562 - 2014-03-29 21:12:08 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dorn Val wrote:
How can you tell?

Cos they haven't been banned.

Prove it maybe?

I've been harrassing you on the forums all night and I am still here Big smile


I didn't realise you were harassing me. Does that maybe make a difference?

D.

Bear

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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1563 - 2014-03-29 21:13:41 UTC
Still no word from TMC. This is very strange. Eve's premier reporting service seems to be focusing on goat simulators.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1564 - 2014-03-29 21:14:34 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Jayem See wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dorn Val wrote:
How can you tell?

Cos they haven't been banned.

Prove it maybe?

I've been harrassing you on the forums all night and I am still here Big smile


I didn't realise you were harassing me. Does that maybe make a difference?

D.

Bear


Heh - I don't generally reduce people to apoplexy when I do it Smile

Aaaaaaand relax.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1565 - 2014-03-29 21:15:48 UTC
Jayem See wrote:
Still no word from TMC. This is very strange. Eve's premier reporting service seems to be focusing on goat simulators.


Because goat simulators are more important than Mr. "I am a minority- a white male American who was in the Army" Erotica1 ?
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1566 - 2014-03-29 21:16:37 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
Jayem See wrote:
Still no word from TMC. This is very strange. Eve's premier reporting service seems to be focusing on goat simulators.


Because goat simulators are more important than Mr. "I am a minority- a white male American who was in the Army" Erotica1 ?


That was quick. Just checking.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1567 - 2014-03-29 21:21:59 UTC
I did not call anyone stupid (that you know of)

I asked why the choice was binary . . . . why either/or not both (or neither)

But if you wish to take offence I am curious. Should I be banned? If you don't take offence but a third person does for you, then falls the banhammer?

If CCP decides I am just being a smart ass (as I occasionally am) and that any offence taken (by victim or third party) is overdoing it do they have the right to choose whether to ban me or not, based on their own judgement?

m

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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1568 - 2014-03-29 21:24:44 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
I did not call anyone stupid (that you know of)

I asked why the choice was binary . . . . why either/or not both (or neither)

But if you wish to take offence I am curious. Should I be banned? If you don't take offence but a third person does for you, then falls the banhammer?

If CCP decides I am just being a smart ass (as I occasionally am) and that any offence taken (by victim or third party) is overdoing it do they have the right to choose whether to ban me or not, based on their own judgement?

m



That response was almost as late as the minutes! Good job!

Aaaaaaand relax.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1569 - 2014-03-29 21:27:14 UTC
Jayem See wrote:


That response was almost as late as the minutes! Good job!


I was out for a while in this thing called the real world.

Over rated.

Actually I am trying to get out of here but I have so much time invested I keep feeling like I am drawn back in involuntarily.

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1570 - 2014-03-29 21:27:26 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dorn Val wrote:
How can you tell?

Cos they haven't been banned.


Maybe they're saving the ban till another CSM makes a torture post.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1571 - 2014-03-29 21:27:41 UTC
I'm glad that CCP chooses to delete entire threads that bring their double standards to light (i.e. Remiel's thread) without addressing the issue at hand, and their GMs will enforce the same double standards.

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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1572 - 2014-03-29 21:27:49 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
I did not call anyone stupid (that you know of)

I asked why the choice was binary . . . . why either/or not both (or neither)

But if you wish to take offence I am curious. Should I be banned? If you don't take offence but a third person does for you, then falls the banhammer?

If CCP decides I am just being a smart ass (as I occasionally am) and that any offence taken (by victim or third party) is overdoing it do they have the right to choose whether to ban me or not, based on their own judgement?

m



Just a question - and very off topic. Once CSM member has moved on can they then discuss stuff like this or is it covered by NDA? I assume it would be (not to mention being bad form) but just wondered.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1573 - 2014-03-29 21:28:41 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Jayem See wrote:


That response was almost as late as the minutes! Good job!


I was out for a while in this thing called the real world.

Over rated.

Actually I am trying to get out of here but I have so much time invested I keep feeling like I am drawn back in involuntarily.

m


It was just a joke - no need to drop the banhammer on me =)

Aaaaaaand relax.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1574 - 2014-03-29 21:29:29 UTC
Jayem See wrote:

Just a question - and very off topic. Once CSM member has moved on can they then discuss stuff like this or is it covered by NDA? I assume it would be (not to mention being bad form) but just wondered.


I am not joking, here.

The NDA is NDA'd

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1575 - 2014-03-29 21:29:35 UTC
Andski wrote:
I'm glad that CCP chooses to delete entire threads that bring their double standards to light (i.e. Remiel's thread) without addressing the issue at hand, and their GMs will enforce the same double standards.


CCP always deleted threads that showed GM communication. Or force-deleted bios that included links to GM communication.
Dorn Val
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1576 - 2014-03-29 21:29:41 UTC
Sentamon wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Dorn Val wrote:
How can you tell?

Cos they haven't been banned.


Maybe they're saving the ban till another CSM makes a torture post.


Ouch it burns! :)

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Jayem See
Perkone
Caldari State
#1577 - 2014-03-29 21:30:52 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Jayem See wrote:

Just a question - and very off topic. Once CSM member has moved on can they then discuss stuff like this or is it covered by NDA? I assume it would be (not to mention being bad form) but just wondered.


I am not joking, here.

The NDA is NDA'd

m


ARF - best answer ever. Still answered the question though. Thanks.

Aaaaaaand relax.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1578 - 2014-03-29 21:32:15 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
CCP always deleted threads that showed GM communication. Or force-deleted bios that included links to GM communication.


Yes, because they do not want their double standards and inconsistent enforcement being put under the spotlight.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#1579 - 2014-03-29 21:33:33 UTC
Ryann Padecain wrote:
Last night I was ransomed and was asked to go on Teamspeak to sing a song, I felt publicly humiliated and have cried for hours and hours. I would like a response from CCP to see what I could do in these circumstances, they have the recordings and are threatening me to release them to the EVE public, is this bannable?



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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#1580 - 2014-03-29 21:33:33 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
Jayem See wrote:

Just a question - and very off topic. Once CSM member has moved on can they then discuss stuff like this or is it covered by NDA? I assume it would be (not to mention being bad form) but just wondered.


I am not joking, here.

The NDA is NDA'd

m

Yo dog, I heard you like NDAs...

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