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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-03-28 13:07:39 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Hello everyone,


CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.


- The EVE Universe Community Team


That means int he case of Erotica and co?
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#22 - 2014-03-28 13:07:43 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
So move along pretty much.

Ok.

Watch my accounts.

Later.

*** not a rage quit.
Just disagreement and something I do not want to affiliate myself with.


Holla at ya. Don't forget to tell us how many accounts so I know how many new accounts to sub to compensate.
Siegfried Cohenberg
Cohenberg's Ethical Hauling
Freighter Friends
#23 - 2014-03-28 13:08:20 UTC
you know im pretty sad that that threadnaught got closed before it reached 400 pages
someone offered a 100m prize to the first post on that page D:
Bloodmyst Ranwar
Menace of Morons
#24 - 2014-03-28 13:09:04 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
As long as Erotica isn't getting away with this without consequences. I am a happy camper.

Even more happier that it is now very crystal clear to everyone that what occurred is not tolerated by CCP.

Thank you very much CCP, faith restored.


Read more closely.

Cases of real life harassment are not accepted and will be investigated.

This is something EVERYBODY is in favor of.

What was never stated is whether they think the Sohkar situation counts as harassment, and MANY people don't think it does.


You talking about the "MANY" Erotica alts and fan boys?.... yeah of course. But whatever, no need to waste my time here any more.
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#25 - 2014-03-28 13:09:18 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:

Bye bye, don't forget to drop off your stuff in the bonus room on your way out.


Please.
You think i'm 10 or something lol?

Oh wait. Eve is your life so...

haha
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#26 - 2014-03-28 13:09:26 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hey, didn't Infinity Ziona promise to unsub all his alts and biomass his main if there wasn't a policy change? Anyone else remember that?


I do, but I suspect it'll just be 2009 all over again.
Jagoff Haverford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2014-03-28 13:09:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Jagoff Haverford
Gotta be honest. I can't tell what the hell this "announcement" is saying. Sure, harassment in "real life" is a bad thing. But I can't even tell, after reading this masterpiece of double-speak, if the Erotica 1/Sokhar incident is or is not considered harassment in "real life".

I know that everyone who has anchored themselves to either side of the debate will probably spend the next 150 pages debating that the current incident does and does not qualify. But I don't really care what a bunch of internet lawyer space nerds have to say on the matter. I do care, however, what CCP's decision is.

And at the moment, I don't have the foggiest notion what that decision may be. I knew that I probably wouldn't agree with all of CCP's decisions on this matter, but I never imagined that I would be simply unable to determine what those decisions were.
Regis Solo
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-03-28 13:09:34 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
As long as Erotica isn't getting away with this without consequences. I am a happy camper.

Even more happier that it is now very crystal clear to everyone that what occurred is not tolerated by CCP.

Thank you very much CCP, faith restored.


Read more closely.

Cases of real life harassment are not accepted and will be investigated.

This is something EVERYBODY is in favor of.

What was never stated is whether they think the Sohkar situation counts as harassment, and MANY people don't think it does.


And it also means this gaming community has reached new levels of depravity.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2014-03-28 13:09:57 UTC
All I know is, I'm not buckling up for another few hundred pages of mouth frothing qq'ing. Thank you, CCP, for stating what we already knew and 100% support.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
PinkPanter
Valhalla Drinking Team
#30 - 2014-03-28 13:10:41 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
PinkPanter wrote:
So move along pretty much.

Ok.

Watch my accounts.

Later.

*** not a rage quit.
Just disagreement and something I do not want to affiliate myself with.


Holla at ya. Don't forget to tell us how many accounts so I know how many new accounts to sub to compensate.


Go cry more noob lol.
And **** yeah I'll give my stuff away :)
To all the nice people I know of course
Cedric deBouilard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2014-03-28 13:10:57 UTC
so... did Erotica 1 got banned or not?

I couldn't get anything from out of CCP corporate-speech
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-03-28 13:11:07 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
Riot Girl wrote:

Bye bye, don't forget to drop off your stuff in the bonus room on your way out.


Please.
You think i'm 10 or something lol?

Oh wait. Eve is your life so...

haha


Yup, we're all just pubbies that take internet spaceships seriously.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-03-28 13:11:13 UTC
Thanks CCP, of course we all disagree with actual real life harassment, however "harassment" on a virtual Teamspeak server... not so sure what to think of the people who let that happen to them.

I disagree
Grarr Dexx
Blue Canary
Watch This
#34 - 2014-03-28 13:11:29 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Hi Falcon!

I have a question for you. I brought this one up specifically in the megathread, so here we go:

Will CCP be applying it's EULA with regards to off-EVE systems. Example: Teamspeak, blogs, Skype, things of that nature.

I'm asking not so much due to the current case, but out of concern that nefarious people may decide to pretend to be someone they wish banned, off of CCP system.

Again, example. Person who hates LAF registers the blog "I_Am_LAF.com". Proceeds to write awful things, violate EULA, and other assorted bad things. Joins random voice comms under my name and spews RL harassment. Would I need to worry about that when it comes to my own account?
Thanks in advance!


They cannot. Evidence like that can be easily doctored.
Regis Solo
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-03-28 13:11:30 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
All I know is, I'm not buckling up for another few hundred pages of mouth frothing qq'ing. Thank you, CCP, for stating what we already knew and 100% support.


Yes a CCP cave in to the power block
Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-03-28 13:11:52 UTC
Cedric deBouilard wrote:
so... did Erotica 1 got banned or not?

I couldn't get anything from out of CCP corporate-speech


that's the riddle in the dark.
olan2005
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2014-03-28 13:12:14 UTC
hmm ok , the response tells is that in extraordinary cases there can be consequences. But what do you define as extraordinary . And given that erotica1 put his actions in public domain much like mittens back in fanfest why no public response .
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#38 - 2014-03-28 13:12:37 UTC
Thanks for the update and keep up the good work.

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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-03-28 13:12:37 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
Go cry more noob lol.

I'm not so sure Jenn is the crying noob here.... sorry mate Smile

I disagree
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-03-28 13:13:36 UTC
Cedric deBouilard wrote:
so... did Erotica 1 got banned or not?

I couldn't get anything from out of CCP corporate-speech


No. The statement was made in a very smart way.

To the pirate types, who really read the words, it only talks about real life harassment.

To the carebear types who don't read the words, it clearly says "erotica 1 was harassing that man."

So it get's the people on the witchhunt to stop by, in their mind, making the case look closed, while the pirates and reality simply say this is the same statement the EULA makes.

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.