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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Mario Putzo
#301 - 2014-03-28 17:19:25 UTC
Thanks CCP and I hope you never do take the sand box out of the game.
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#302 - 2014-03-28 17:20:28 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Kristalll wrote:
Is there a part of the Bonus Room you would change to improve it?

Hire me as a consultant and I'll plug all the loopholes, add some style and ensure there is never again any cause for concern about possible CCP intervention.


I'd need an example of your good work first. Possibly a resume.

FULL DISCLOSURE ON THE BONUS ROOM http://podborn.com/community/psychopaths-guide-to-the-bonus-room

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#303 - 2014-03-28 17:20:40 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Ever notice how slow a thread moves when all leave but few mewling hangers-on that turn it into a circle jerk?

Mr Epeen Cool

No that's what it looks like when several dozens of people are forced to swallow their pride simultaneously. Some hang around to save face (and act like winning wasn't their agenda anyway), others just slink away quietly and hope everyone else forgets they ever said anything.

Oh god.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#304 - 2014-03-28 17:21:07 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do you have any self respect?

I have plenty. Thanks!

Are you a wizard? You seem to be taking this very personally.

I think the Bonus Room design is pants-on-head ********.
I think its designers are obviously an elite and select group of 30lvl wizards.

Thats my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad!


It's not what I think of your opinion that matters. It's that your 'opinion' is delivered with such vitriol. It's obviously intended as an attempt to cause butthurt. What makes you think someone being a 'wizard' (whatever the hell that means) would be cause to feel butthurt?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Salvos Rhoska
#305 - 2014-03-28 17:21:55 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
I'd need an example of your good work first. Possibly a resume.

I'd think my fine work in the threadnaught provides ample proof of my capacity to deliver on my promises.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Kirsi Kirjasto
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
#306 - 2014-03-28 17:23:29 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
Thanks CCP and I hope you never do take the sand box out of the game.



I'm waiting for Erotica 1 to post before I assume this.
H aVo K
Tycheon Industries
#307 - 2014-03-28 17:23:39 UTC
Warde Guildencrantz wrote:
Easiest way to prevent real life harassment: Don't be a corp thief, don't AWOX.

Not saying you shouldn't do those ever, but if they know any of your info someone might get ideas. (i've heard people joke around about sending this guy that stole stuff from one of my old corps hatemail/weird stuff in the mail, or possibly flame him on facebook)


http://themittani.com/features/did-cfc-just-win-eve

"why did he post that?" you may ask... Simple: If such a thing really does come to pass, corp theft and awoxing is likely going to be EVE's best hope of bringing that group down. Just like it did with BoB.

The fact that a weapon can be used against you isn't a good reason for advocating its removal from the game; You may wish you had it available to use on someone else someday.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#308 - 2014-03-28 17:23:45 UTC
Shizuken wrote:
Cedric deBouilard wrote:
so... did Erotica 1 got banned or not?

I couldn't get anything from out of CCP corporate-speech


Just add him to your watch list and see if he stops logging in.


Well one of the previous posts suggests he can't log in so I guess his account is suspended pending investigation (probably due to thousands of petitions from overreacting time-wasters). I doubt he'll be away too long.

Oh god.
Wulfy Johnson
NorCorp Security
#309 - 2014-03-28 17:24:47 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
Hello everyone,

For the last few weeks the community has been debating the topic of real life harassment, and its connection to the EVE Universe. The EVE Universe Community Team has been working on this issue for some time now, and has had extensive discussions about it with your elected representatives, the Council of Stellar Management.

EVE is a virtual world whose inhabitants have more freedom to play the villain and experiment with various backhanded tactics than in any other MMO. The freedom to scam and commit piracy, espionage, and extortion are all fundamental to the EVE Online experience, and CCP will never change that. However, it is important to remember that the EVE universe is a virtual world, and behavior of this nature should remain firmly within that virtual world.

While the content of online interactions between players cannot realistically be gated within our game worlds, CCP strongly disapproves of clear and extraordinary levels of real life harassment against our players in the outside world.

CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.

Harassment poses a potential problem in any virtual world, and CCP has dealt with cases of this nature for more than a decade. We will continue to monitor and evaluate claims of harassment based on our policies and acceptable standards of behavior.

As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.

- The EVE Universe Community Team



Gf all, but ccp, i seem to be missing a statment on abuse.. Besides that, thanx.
Lachra
Lachra Corporation
#310 - 2014-03-28 17:26:20 UTC
This action sends out a clear message, as does the outcry and the volume of commentary on the subject from the EVE community. CCP has responded promptly and succinctly to the subject, and although they cannot specifically comment on individual actions, this should not be taken as inactivity on the matter. My thanks to CCP for their recognition of the issue, and to the individuals brave enough to raise this issue to mass awareness - you have all made New Eden a less trashy place.
fudface
ACME-INC
#311 - 2014-03-28 17:26:38 UTC
Kirsi Kirjasto wrote:
Mario Putzo wrote:
Thanks CCP and I hope you never do take the sand box out of the game.



I'm waiting for Erotica 1 to post before I assume this.


from what i saw of that imgur link that was posted he cant log in.

+1 CCP

looks like there is a limit to what you can get away with.

my 2 isk worth
Helena Russell Makanen
DRRUSSEL
#312 - 2014-03-28 17:27:01 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
I have yet to see Erotica1 tell us he'd have a good laugh and someone being assaulted.



He is a sadistic sociopath, of course he would.

"If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."  -  James 315 - aka - the miner bumper

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#313 - 2014-03-28 17:27:54 UTC
Thank you CCP. I'm glad that you have established this policy, though I am curious how far they will enforce it.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#314 - 2014-03-28 17:28:39 UTC
Helena Russell Makanen wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
I have yet to see Erotica1 tell us he'd have a good laugh and someone being assaulted.



He is a sadistic sociopath, of course he would.


That's an assumption based on an presumed but not demonstrable premise.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#315 - 2014-03-28 17:28:45 UTC
Jagoff Haverford wrote:
And at the moment, I don't have the foggiest notion what that decision may be. I knew that I probably wouldn't agree with all of CCP's decisions on this matter, but I never imagined that I would be simply unable to determine what those decisions were.

It's just spin. It's what I would have written if my boss asked me to make some sort of announcement without saying anything definitive or tangible.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#316 - 2014-03-28 17:29:18 UTC
PinkPanter wrote:
So move along pretty much.

Ok.

Watch my accounts.

Later.

*** not a rage quit.
Just disagreement and something I do not want to affiliate myself with.



Can I have your stuff?
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#317 - 2014-03-28 17:30:30 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do you have any self respect?

I have plenty. Thanks!

Are you a wizard? You seem to be taking this very personally.

I think the Bonus Room design is pants-on-head ********.
I think its designers are obviously an elite and select group of 30lvl wizards.

Thats my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad!


It's not what I think of your opinion that matters. It's that your 'opinion' is delivered with such vitriol. It's obviously intended as an attempt to cause butthurt. What makes you think someone being a 'wizard' (whatever the hell that means) would be cause to feel butthurt?


Wait, do you mean he is deliberately harassing you in an attempt to get a reaction? Do you feel he is mentally pressuring you and insulting your feelings?

I think that might be Torture bro (as defined by amnesty internation, of course)

“Die trying” is the proudest human thing.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#318 - 2014-03-28 17:30:37 UTC
CCP Guard wrote:
Hi, Lady Areola Fappington

The EULA has always affected external content to a degree, when that content is shared using our systems. For example when you post a link that contains inappropriate content, even though that content is hosted somewhere outside EVE Online, there's always been potential for disciplinary action. We haven't changed any policies but we do reserve the right, as we always have, to revoke access to our services if they are being used to facilitate something, or share something, that violates our terms of service.

This short paragraph says more than the OP did.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#319 - 2014-03-28 17:32:11 UTC
Well at least it's clear now. If anyone does anything you don't like in game, post a ticket with tears, tell them you are feeling upset and demand the other party be instantly banned. If they aren't going to draw lines, and are going to arbitrarily ban people, then we shouldn't assume line ans should report any time something happens in game that we dislike, right? We don't want to assume that it was all find and then later realise it was harassment all along.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#320 - 2014-03-28 17:33:16 UTC
Kristalll wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Do you have any self respect?

I have plenty. Thanks!

Are you a wizard? You seem to be taking this very personally.

I think the Bonus Room design is pants-on-head ********.
I think its designers are obviously an elite and select group of 30lvl wizards.

Thats my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad!


It's not what I think of your opinion that matters. It's that your 'opinion' is delivered with such vitriol. It's obviously intended as an attempt to cause butthurt. What makes you think someone being a 'wizard' (whatever the hell that means) would be cause to feel butthurt?


Wait, do you mean he is deliberately harassing you in an attempt to get a reaction? Do you feel he is mentally pressuring you and insulting your feelings?

I think that might be Torture bro (as defined by amnesty internation, of course)
Agreed, report him for harassment. Even if you don't think this is harassment, we do so you should report it. That's how it works right?

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.