EVE General Discussion

heh...yeah...okay.

I can't see why any hi sec person would care about afk cloakers. Fly properly fitted ships and don't do stupid things. Unless I see a fleet of battlecruisers warp in on me, I couldn't care less who else is in the system and what they are doing.

Afk cloaking is fun in war decs though...

Ah..but AFK Cloaking can be applied to Wardecs as well, and I have done so many many times! The same psychological effects are generated by a flashy in local in highsec as they are by an unknown neut in null.

Personally I feel since the mechanics are there, you may as well take advantage of all your resources - which include multiple accounts to afk cloak your target systems all to your hearts content. EVE will always be the 'long game' and every isk that doesn't go into someone's wallet is to your advantage.

As to your actions affecting other players, I feel there are many types of emergent game play in EVE and 99% of it involves blowing up other people's ships, 'ruining someone's day, or 'collecting delicious tears'. I do not think a high sec ganker is thinking about what is right and wrong. I do not think a FW roaming fleet that comes across a bunch of neutrals have a moral imperative to let them go because they aren't the opposing faction.

Is it ethical? I went back to Nicomachean Ethics and saw nothing that resembled AFK cloaking in the text. So I think you're good. Is it ethical to infiltrate a corp and steal its loot? Is it ethical to beg for isk when you have plenty in hubs? I can look back in history and cite many RL instances of extremely unethical warfare working great and producing desired results - all of which include breaking your enemy.

I also think you have an moral imperative to do what makes you happy in EVE. You pay your sub, whether you are at your keyboard or not. You would be doing yourself a disservice if you did not do what you felt was necessary in the game.

The Devs at this point have not touched afk cloaking or have even taken a stance (in all the years this has been an issue) so I guess they do not see it as a broken mechanic. Case closed?

Yep, its an ironic name, like a tall guy named Tiny. Thank you for your post.

You do realize that your name does not fit with your trolling, correct? I sense much success in this thread. 8/10.

Also, I invite you to come afk cloak in my system. It starts with a J and then has a bunch of numbers. You can't miss it.

Thank you Bebop!
I actually have a convienient fix for wormholes (which I have camped too!). Its the same as using the actual "cloaky" variation, except that my wife walks by the computer and types random things into local about every 20 or so minutes! Its actually really effective. I have to use actual cloakers though..because you see...wormhole folks ACTUALLY TRY TO FIND YOU, and I love that about you guys.

This is why im doing this thread. You see, my "victims" constantly use buzzwords like "harassment", "oppression" and "ban", as well as "Against my will" and "ruining my gameplay" as well as "Breaking the EULA and ToS" and "against international law". I want to ask the community about the morality of my gameplay choices to see if they are using those buzzwords in order to gain a response from someone, or just using them willy-nilly, because I believe that using terms like those in inappropriate situations lessen their effects, and take away from actual victims who are placed in those situations. Much like the boy who cried wolf.

And as always, Thank you for your contribution Malcolm!

Thank you Rikii! Exactly my point! Im not really affecting you at all! But alas, you are in the minority of players. You see, you have the ability to overcome your fears, and don't feel trapped by any of my actions! Most of your fellow capsuleers don't, hence why I do this.

You get a +1 from me for using "Common Sense". Would you agree that since the majority of people don't use "Common Sense" that it should be named "Uncommon Sense" instead?