EVE General Discussion

As a new player (subbing just a few hours ago), it's absolutely mind boggling how unfavorable seeking help is.

Never mind how quickly questions are buried in Rookie Help, I can tolerate having to pose the question a few times until it's addressed. My concern is that apathetic approach the (moderators?) take to controlling the channel in regards to trolls and useless responses.

Case and point: I posed a question about obtaining shares in my corporation. It's owned and controlled by a real life friend who is currently unavailable for me to ask him how to go about doing it. Instead of getting an informative response, I received something to the effect of "it's a scam, they're not worth it, they're not what you think they are".

Not only was the "answer" not relevant to what I asked, but it was nothing short of an ignorant opinion line that didn't offer anything of substance. I replied with "I didn't ask for an opinion, I asked for directions on obtaining them". Moments later a bounty was placed on my head by the player who apparently didn't like that I didn't care for his opinion.

How is this anything but a deterrent to continue playing? I only tried to seek a simple answer as the Wiki contains zero information on obtaining shares, and wind up having a bounty and still no answer.

Bottom line, I never knew that the rumored toxic nature of this community was really so bad that new players are trolled and harassed in Rookie Help.

FYI if you want actual help, do some research on newbie friendly corporations.

To my understanding, and based on the advice of a GM who randomly contacted me a few days ago during my trial, Rookie Help is supposed to have veteran players willing to offer advice and answers. Had I known otherwise, I'd never have wasted a moment of my time.

Stay out of rookie chat and practice patience. The game's not going anywhere and neither are you.

There are just as many new players spamming questions as there are...well...new players. They are all as excited as you to get things going so the channel is a waste of time for real info.

Wait for someone in your corp to log in and ask then. You'll be less likely to pull out your hair.

Mr Epeen

Yep, that channel is useless.

Rookie Help is terrible and if you got an answer it was probably terrible too. I'll second asking in the New Citizens Q&A forum instead.

This used to be different. Rookie chat was always moving at a quick pace but there also used to be at least a few decent minded vets with new alts, who tried to help rookies.

For no apparent reason it turned into something of a troll channel by the end of 2012. I've even seen older players (deliberately?) giving false Information in the channel this expansion.

ISDs try their best, but their presence is simply not up to stopping these things happen.

*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.

Your best bet, if you plan on staying in Eve, is to join Eve UNI, at least with an alt. You will get a lot more honest and helpful answers there. Best of luck to you if you plan on sticking around in Eve. With the nerfs happening that target the new players predominately, every new player is going to need it.

The anonimity of I-net environments give rise to people who want to attack others, but are too weak to do so in real life. By hiding behind virtual characters they lower themselves to standards frowned upon from the moment you become 4 years old. There's even an entire alliance that advocates this kind of behavior.

Now; as for a solution:

- They did not provide information.
- They did nothing that warrants you remembering them (in my opinion)

So ignore them. It not you that is so desperate for attention from total strangers, that you would present yourself like that now is it?

Try Google btw. There may be an explanation on there you can use. Somebody may have even made a youtube video about it, showing you exactly what to click at. I've never tried or wondered about it myself.

And welcome to EVE m8

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