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EVE Online Fleet vs Star Trek Fleet
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Jackson Dom
Kiith Naabal
#1 - 2014-03-25 12:46:58 UTC
Star Trek Enterprise is about 600 metres long. It's actually slightly larger than the standard battlecruisers in EVE Online. But I don't think there is a starship longer than one km in Star Trek. In EVE Online most battleships are bigger than that. Of course it would be another topic if the capital ships, especially when super capitals from EVE Online get involved.
However, the size isn't very important in space. No one can actually know how many damage they can take. This is because both the ships from Star Trek and EVE Online are shielded. But there is no data supports which shield is stronger. As we all known, ships in Star Trek are quite weak when they lost their shields. Caldari ships from EVE Online also have this kind of problems. Ships from other factions in EVE Online most relied on armour. With the Damage control module any ships from EVE Online can take a lot of more damage. Star Trek doesn't have any solutions for that.
As a matter of fact, the max number of high slots is eight. That means all ships from EVE Online can only fit less than eight turrets. Except cruise missile launchers, all turrets on your ship should be doubled the number you fitted, in order to fire at any direction. So in real combat, it is possible to fire more than eight turrets at the same time. Star Trek is not a game, so there is no limit how many weapons they can fit on to a ship, they can fit as more turrets as possible. In deed, just like the size of the ship, number of turrets does't really matter in space combat. What does matters is the actual damage out-put.
Also, ships in Star Trek can get into warp faster than EVE Online(especially for larger ships). Star Trek ships can even engage in warp! Star Trek ships can maneuver better than EVE Online. There are so many advantages for Star Trek.
It may seems like Star Trek ships are better than EVE Online. But when Star Trek fleet and EVE Online fleet really get in to a fight, The satuation should be:

Star fleet ships engage EVE Online ships.(from the view of a Star fleet ship)
* Shields up! Red alert!
1. Something wrong with the radar, we cannot lock any target(ECM Jamming)
2. Thanks god, target locked. Open fire!
Why can't we hit anything?(Tracking Disruption)
3. The targeting range has been reduced somehow(Sensor Dampening)
4. Taking heavy fire. Take us out of here.
Sir, we can't warp.(Warp Disruption)
5. Set full speed! Engine lost 60% of power!(Stasis Webifier)
6. Fire phasers, full power!
Not enough power. Cannot fire.(Energy Neutralizers)

Overall, please watch out the variety of EVE Online Ewars!!!
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-25 12:51:06 UTC
Id rather see EVE online vs Star Wars.

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Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-03-25 12:59:26 UTC
Jackson Dom wrote:
But I don't think there is a starship longer than one km in Star Trek. In EVE Online most battleships are bigger than that.


Romulan Narada from the 2009 movie is 11 km long.
Jackson Dom
Kiith Naabal
#4 - 2014-03-25 13:05:04 UTC
Thanks for reminding me.
Star Trek 2009 is a great movie
Cavalira
Habemus
#5 - 2014-03-25 13:30:06 UTC
This is pretty autistic. Oh well :GD:
Tonai Kion
Physics Says No
Brotherhood of Spacers
#6 - 2014-03-25 14:03:24 UTC
I think the fight would come down to mobility. If the fight took place anywhere where both sides can use stargates, The Eve Cyno Jump tactics would allow Eve forces to project large distances and be able to outmaneuver a starfleet fleet.

However without stargates Eve ships travelling at 3AU/s are moving at... wow. They move pretty close to warp 9. That's insane. Most Starfleet ships don't go warp 9 for the fun of it, in fact only the newest ships of the line (dominion +) were probably built with that in mind. Wow, I really didn't think EVE warp was that fast. So without stargates and going manually from system to system, Both sides would have an even fight.

As far as fleet strength goes, null sec alone could hold their own against Starfleet, needless to say what the Empires would be able to wield. Even if Starfleet does have the 30-50 thousand ships estimated, a single Amarr Titan is about 5 times bigger than a Borg cube, granted I doubt a titan could ever hit a ship as small as a federation ship seeing how they are very maneuverable and tiny.

The battle plan would probably be to use titans to destroy Star fleet orbital facilities and outposts, and serve as core of a fleet, and have much smaller ships capable of engaging the smaller Starfleet ships as escorts. Short of their torpedo weapons being super effective against Armor Tanking, I doubt Starfleet has the manpower to take down a hundred titan fleets.


Conclusion, on home turf Eve will destroy Starfleet. In the Alpha Quadrant, it's dependent on what the Federation of planets's weapons are capable of.
Serene Repose
#7 - 2014-03-25 14:07:08 UTC
Everyone knows it's not the size...it's the sense of humor! Bwaaa haaa haaaaa....oops.
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Jackson Dom
Kiith Naabal
#8 - 2014-03-25 14:08:29 UTC
The federation weapons would be useless if Ewars are widely used.
I don't think star trek has the solution for that
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2014-03-25 14:12:52 UTC
Considering the volatility of the average Star Trek warp core, a warp scram would make it explode. Not to mention what a bubble would do to the manoeuvrability.

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#10 - 2014-03-25 14:15:51 UTC
Starfleet has a secret weapon. Wesley Crusher.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#11 - 2014-03-25 14:19:30 UTC
this is a new and exciting topic.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#12 - 2014-03-25 14:21:18 UTC
shouldn't you be in school?

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#13 - 2014-03-25 14:42:25 UTC
Cavalira wrote:
This is pretty autistic. Oh well :GD:


People like you, that just throw the word 'autistic' around like a derogatory, are disgusting.

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-03-25 14:45:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Abrazzar wrote:
Considering the volatility of the average Star Trek warp core, a warp scram would make it explode. Not to mention what a bubble would do to the manoeuvrability.



I've heard that in eve they would also explode if you just simply shut the ship off. Although warp cores in eve look like the symbol on disruptors and whatnot.

https://image.eveonline.com/Type/11640_64.png Looks like one of those thingies.. I had an actual CCP image of one somewhere but have forgotten it's URL.

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#15 - 2014-03-25 14:50:22 UTC
Star treks fleet wouldn't even make it past the first newbro gate camp on the way to meet us.

There would be no fight. Cool

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unidenify
Deaf Armada
#16 - 2014-03-25 14:52:23 UTC
Tonai Kion wrote:
I think the fight would come down to mobility. If the fight took place anywhere where both sides can use stargates, The Eve Cyno Jump tactics would allow Eve forces to project large distances and be able to outmaneuver a starfleet fleet.

However without stargates Eve ships travelling at 3AU/s are moving at... wow. They move pretty close to warp 9. That's insane. Most Starfleet ships don't go warp 9 for the fun of it, in fact only the newest ships of the line (dominion +) were probably built with that in mind. Wow, I really didn't think EVE warp was that fast. So without stargates and going manually from system to system, Both sides would have an even fight.

As far as fleet strength goes, null sec alone could hold their own against Starfleet, needless to say what the Empires would be able to wield. Even if Starfleet does have the 30-50 thousand ships estimated, a single Amarr Titan is about 5 times bigger than a Borg cube, granted I doubt a titan could ever hit a ship as small as a federation ship seeing how they are very maneuverable and tiny.

The battle plan would probably be to use titans to destroy Star fleet orbital facilities and outposts, and serve as core of a fleet, and have much smaller ships capable of engaging the smaller Starfleet ships as escorts. Short of their torpedo weapons being super effective against Armor Tanking, I doubt Starfleet has the manpower to take down a hundred titan fleets.


Conclusion, on home turf Eve will destroy Starfleet. In the Alpha Quadrant, it's dependent on what the Federation of planets's weapons are capable of.



many people don't know that EVE online ship is quite fast when compare to Star Trek
Interceptor probably is so fast that none of Star Trek ship have capable to chase it

Cerebus with full Implant of Ascendancy have warp speed equal to Star Trek TNG 9.5 warp speed.

however question is that can EVE online ship constant run max speed?
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-03-25 14:54:04 UTC
unidenify wrote:
Tonai Kion wrote:
I think the fight would come down to mobility. If the fight took place anywhere where both sides can use stargates, The Eve Cyno Jump tactics would allow Eve forces to project large distances and be able to outmaneuver a starfleet fleet.

However without stargates Eve ships travelling at 3AU/s are moving at... wow. They move pretty close to warp 9. That's insane. Most Starfleet ships don't go warp 9 for the fun of it, in fact only the newest ships of the line (dominion +) were probably built with that in mind. Wow, I really didn't think EVE warp was that fast. So without stargates and going manually from system to system, Both sides would have an even fight.

As far as fleet strength goes, null sec alone could hold their own against Starfleet, needless to say what the Empires would be able to wield. Even if Starfleet does have the 30-50 thousand ships estimated, a single Amarr Titan is about 5 times bigger than a Borg cube, granted I doubt a titan could ever hit a ship as small as a federation ship seeing how they are very maneuverable and tiny.

The battle plan would probably be to use titans to destroy Star fleet orbital facilities and outposts, and serve as core of a fleet, and have much smaller ships capable of engaging the smaller Starfleet ships as escorts. Short of their torpedo weapons being super effective against Armor Tanking, I doubt Starfleet has the manpower to take down a hundred titan fleets.


Conclusion, on home turf Eve will destroy Starfleet. In the Alpha Quadrant, it's dependent on what the Federation of planets's weapons are capable of.



many people don't know that EVE online ship is quite fast when compare to Star Trek
Interceptor probably is so fast that none of Star Trek ship have capable to chase it

Cerebus with full Implant of Ascendancy have warp speed equal to Star Trek TNG 9.5 warp speed.

however question is that can EVE online ship constant run max speed?


I'm going to assume they both use power to warp right? Any long distance warps take a ton of the capacitor, dunno how it works in star trek.

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Jackson Dom
Kiith Naabal
#18 - 2014-03-25 15:00:49 UTC
Warp Disruption and wabber can bring a lot of troubles to star fleet
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#19 - 2014-03-25 15:02:58 UTC
Belt Scout wrote:
Star treks fleet wouldn't even make it past the first newbro gate camp on the way to meet us.

There would be no fight. Cool


You're assuming that Starfleet comes into this star cluster via low/null sec. What if they appeared in hi sec? There wouldn't be many player gate camps between them and Science and Trade Institute systems.
Jackson Dom
Kiith Naabal
#20 - 2014-03-25 15:14:49 UTC
The Concord will take care of them in high sec
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