Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Wardecs were created as a means of establishing legal fighting in highsec. Clearly, it was always intended that there be a purpose behind starting a confrontation with someone who is in highsec. Generally, that reason would have some strategic significance behind it, but they can be started for basically any reason. I feel they are being abused by mercs and griefers who have made highsec their home and simply choose to pick on people weaker than themselves. It is rare for mercs to fight each other, making it difficult to even the playing field. That said,I try to separate mercs and griefers, because I believe they are very different from one another. Many mercs are respectable, but some mercs should really fall under the category of griefer.

I feel some simple changes to wardecs would curb abuse with minimal disruption to the vast majority of wardecs:
Increase the cost of wardecs that are renewed each week so that wars cannot go on in perpetuity. (If both parties want a perpetual war, they need simply set the war to mutual.)

When a wardec does end, restrict the aggressor from redeclaring war on the defending party for a specified period of time in order to prevent them from getting around the first point.

Increase the cost of wardecs based on how many active wars an aggressor corp has initiated. (The ones doing the bullying often have hundreds going at any given time.)

I have been part of the merc community in two separate alliances. The first was honorable and made up of people I would come to call my friends, the second was not. In the case of the latter, the executor declared war on so many corps that he cleaned out the corp coffers and sent out a mail asking for donations to the corp so he could declare even more. This is what makes me feel the above would be helpful.

Not at all. If it costs more to wardec each target exponentially you wouldn't get corps with 46-75 war decs every week. You would actually start seeing true war dec mechanics the way they were intended, and not just griefer corps war deccing people who they see in trade hubs.

Oh, and as for "intended":

They were intended to allow you to attack someone without the interference of CONCORD, for a fee, with 24 hours notice.

That's it. Anything else is just you projecting your thoughts onto the developers, which is an entirely illegitimate argument.

If you read the Devblog on wardecs, creating a career path specifically for merc corps was one of the guidelines:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/changes-to-war-mechanics

Working as intended as there doesn't appear to have been a deeper core reason for wars.

It's a way to create conflict and for specific wardec corps to be able to declare war.

It's hard in that case to claim that Corps are abusing the system, as the system was designed exactly for the way it is being used.

Should have read the post above yours, firstly.

Secondly, the OP doesn't get to spout off "intended use of wardecs" or any of that nonsense. It's totally dishonest to do so. If he wants them changed then he posted on the wrong forum, by the way.

You have no idea much ISK some people an organisations have, do you? Besides, I'd rather be decced by the cheap guys than have every war limited to being fought between just the ultra-rich ultra-resourced corps and their selected targets du jour.

o/

Make wars cost more, then make characters in war unable to drop corp or disband without permission from the aggressor.

Sounds fair?

If you don't want to be legal targets in a war don't be in an organization that is at war.

um....so I could create a 1 man corp, continue to never un dock since this is a forum alt, and perpetually wardec corps like goonswarm, RvB or EVEUni and none of their players could ever leave without my permission?

I think I would be willing to buy PLEX's to fund wardecs if this were possible....

Wardecs are fine as they are, aside from the corp jumping thing, I'd propose making anyone who jumps corps to avoid a dec have to pay the dec'er a % of their war cost based on the number of people in the target corp.

So if I wardec a 10 man corp, costing me 50 mill isk, each person that leaves that corp must pay me 5 mill isk.

The reason is I hate dec'ing a corp that then bails to a new corp, then a new corp etc etc. Especially if I have a valid reason to have dec'd them in the first place, not that I usually do :)

I agree fix it ccp