Ships & Modules

Let's do a quick compare of the two with similar fits. The following numbers imply an all V char.

[Incursus]

Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Photonic CPU Enhancer I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I

Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S
Light Ion Blaster II, Void S

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Warrior II x1

196DPS on paper.

[Tristan]

Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

Medium Shield Extender II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
Light Electron Blaster II, Void S
[Empty High slot]

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I


Hobgoblin II x5

195DPS on paper.

Spot the difference between the fits? The incursus has the PG & CPU to fit the ions, the tristan does not. This problem is compounded on the tristan due to it having less low slots than the incursus. As has already been said, if the incursus is flying at its optimal, it will apply 100% of its DPS 100% of the time. Knock out the drones from the tristan (or outrun them, or ignore them) and its game over.

I mean yea, in theory it is possible to fit in order to match both dps ...

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And I dont care about ingame tactics to kill one with another ship, this is Incursus vs Tristan debate, and I just noticed it had a much higher base dps overall, and that didnt make much sense if we're talking role to role ship balance and specifics.

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Stop being bad. Some Incursus fit can perma tank the dps of the Tristan. The thing of the Incursus is its *tank*. The dps is the thing of ALL gallente combat ships, and drone ships can *always* outdps pure blaster ships. Considering its tank, the Tristan is far from OP.

If you died with an Incursus against a Tristan, you just have been worse than your ennemy. Learn from your mistakes instead of crying.

Also, your idea of base dps is plain stupid because it means nothing with drones.

A little OP ?

Who else here agrees that its current drone dps should be a thing of the past ?

I suggest reducing it by half, such as minus 2 drones, to make things even and to force Tristan pilots to think more on its gun range mitigation than just your usual point/click/watchtheshow ...

Im getting sick of it.

To put things into perspective, Tristan's dps, hobgoblin drones + guns, is the equivalent of 4x guns dps, at the very least...

I tested it out again against a kiting rail incursus, it outdps'ed it by a long shot, as well as tanking dmg long enough, and optimal ranges maintained on both sides throughout the entire fight.

Please CCP, bring back an advantage to pilots who actually perform real fighting management, opposed to all the drones who just copy/paste and abuse i-win flavors of the month...

/Flames on

TLDR: Reduce Tristan's drone capacity by half, or remove one low slot to reduce its tanking capacity, or anything which would force tristan pilots to doing a little more than just launch drones/watch things die..