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How to find the corp that is right for you - Version 3.0

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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#61 - 2015-10-01 06:57:39 UTC
A great guide for all players, be they looking for a corp or looking to get more people into one

Wormholer for life.

Morgan Mino
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#62 - 2015-10-31 22:08:57 UTC
Great thread to read as a newbie.

My search of a Corp with start now with this info in my head and I feel safe doing it now ;)

Thanks!!

A new pilot in this world.

Ready to work and learn about the game.

Avvy
Doomheim
#63 - 2015-11-12 01:55:02 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
API keys are "completely safe" only in the context that the malicious party cannot do anything to your account simply by having access to the API key.

You should never assume that the information accessible via the API is going to be treated as secret. Expect that the information gleaned through the API is going to appear on the forums within about five seconds of you handing over the API keys. Is any of that information going to damage your reputation, cause difficulties with friends, expose a secret cyno alt, or otherwise cause difficulty? If so, simply don't hand over the API keys.




Interesting, handing over an API, for your new corp. to splash over the forums, sounds to me like that corp. lacks any kind of professionalism.

Would you really want to be in a corp. like that?
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
Pandemic Legion
#64 - 2016-01-04 05:31:53 UTC
Great thread.

Just a note on other alliance members offering to haul your stuff for you. You might want to note that for players joining corps in sovereign null sec this is the only way you may be able to get stuff to your new corps home system (as third parties won't have docking rights and a new player won't have access to their own jump freighter yet).

In either case, it's probably best to travel to your new home system in null and then buy ships there until you get a feel for your new corp. Most major alliances have doctrine and other ships available on contract in null. You can then try and move your stuff out to null sec at a later date if you need to.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#65 - 2016-02-21 09:50:17 UTC
Just a small bump to ensure that people can keep adding advice and save the poor forum moderators some time unlocking it Smile
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#66 - 2016-04-15 07:03:48 UTC
Just wanted to make sure that people know that I do check my EVE mail, just not on a regular basis.
So if you have any questions or comments and I don't get back to you in a timely manner I am sorry,I will read them soon Smile
Conundrum Aubaris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#67 - 2016-04-22 15:13:19 UTC
I'm still so new to the game that this is my first forum post. Very nicely written, comprehensive and covers everything I've wondered as well as a few things I'm too new to have considered. Truly one of the best and most helpful posts I've read thus far. Big thank you to NC85 and all the contributors.
Scott Kerman
Black Heart Syndicate
Ocularis Inferno
#68 - 2016-05-09 23:21:12 UTC
Congrats on making it onto the EVE Launcher! Wonderful guide! Big smile

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#69 - 2016-05-10 00:23:07 UTC
Scott Kerman wrote:
Congrats on making it onto the EVE Launcher! Wonderful guide! Big smile


I will admit I'm actually blushing a bit!

Thank you to everyone that has contributed to this guide and all the nice words! Its much appreciated Big smile
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#70 - 2016-05-10 00:26:28 UTC
Should I join a corporation

The following is my response to an EVE mail regarding whether or not a player should join a corporation. My own opinion only.

Hey there!

Your question is not an easy one to answer, and i will admit that i have been spending the last hour or so sitting mulling it over in my head trying to give you the most honest answer i can.

A couple of years ago during Fanfest CCP had a big presentation on new players and they found that a lot of the new players that left did so without ever joining a corporation and it was their wish to encourage more new players to try out the "real" EVE. And, in one way, i largely agree with them.
Being in a corporation in EVE, which often leads to much stronger ties to your fellow corp members then you would in a classic guild or clan in another game, is an amazing experience IF you manage to find the right group of people. As im sure you have found out by now thats the difficult part and no amount of guides or tips will be the magic solution so many people wish for.

Some people just dont do well in EVE on their own.
Maybe because they are playing EVE for the social aspect, maybe because they need/want to feel like they are a part of something. Or maybe because they feel the draw of being in the spotlight (even if they are sharing it with hundreds, if not thousands of other pilots in the alliance or coalition). Maybe because in such a deep and complex game like EVE the thought of being alone is just... too much.
Whatever the reason is, some people wont feel happy or even content unless they can fly under a flag and celebrate victories (in and out of game) and grieve over losses with their friends, and sometime the loss of a friend as your fellow pilots passes away.

However, just because i mainly agree with CCP regarding getting new players into a corporation as soon as possible it does not mean that everyone SHOULD join a corporation.
The people can could pull off being happy, and successful on their own is a very small % of the player base. On top of my head i can only think about two people that has managed to pull this off, and their names are Chribba and Innominate Nightmare. The latter being long gone. In both those examples the players in questions have some extraordinary accomplishments that helped making their life style possible (and affordable).

Occasionally you will see people on the forums, in the CEO channel, in Jita local or wherever that will preach about the joys of being on their own, and how well it has worked out for them after having done it for X amount of years. But, how many players would know who they are, or care about what they have archived, because in the grand scheme of things they wont have made much of a difference. And that is supposed to be one of the big draws with EVE, that YOU as a player can make a difference and make history.

But again, supposed to. And thats what a lot of people, including me, forget over and over and over again. Just because something is advertised a certain way, and us old, cranky, stubborn people cant accept the fact that things are changing we should not discourage or prevent new players like your self to "break the norm" and do something that would make most old time players and CCP members that deal with new players cry and cringe in a corner.

However, its not our right, or place, to dictate that these people are not happy.

Sure i can point out all the things that you cant do as a solo player, and guess what, i would be doing it out of habit, not because its actually true! People like Chribba basically went out there and proved to the whole universe that "Hah! I dont need a 2000 man alliance to have my own capital ship fleet!", or "Pfff, i feel like creating an alliance so im going to do it even if I'm the only person in it!". Innominate Nightmare showed the universe that a brand new player, in a rookie ship could travel the universe and witness events like the first Titan coming out of production, having conversations with the most prominent EVE players in history, and being invited to events and witnessing fights that most "ordinary" EVE players could just dream off.


So, is it necessary to join a corporation to enjoy EVE? Reluctantly i will have to say no.
But I think the average EVE player would miss out on a lot of opportunities if they decided to not at least give it a chance.
Baltich Sidatious
LiCH - The Ghost Fleet
#71 - 2016-05-10 03:09:49 UTC
Didn't even read it, but just sheer lines, nice work...

Twisted

Not hiring...

Vanessa Gauld
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2016-05-10 12:47:33 UTC
I am new to this game and was looking for some good information about corporations... Verry informative! Big smile Thank u so much!
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Communications Test Design INC
#73 - 2016-05-10 14:38:46 UTC
With the Citadel expansion, I expect CCP will see a decent uptick in new/re-activated accounts. I'm sure this thread will help those that either find it on their own or are directed here by helpful capsuleers. Thanks for keeping this updated, NC.

o7

"I am a leaf on the...ah, frak it!"

Tina Mori
Maniacal Miners INC
Cosmic Maniacs
#74 - 2016-07-24 00:46:08 UTC
My opinion is that all new players should join a Player Corp, rather than stick in their starter Corp

I believe in helping new players learn some basics about Eve, both skillwise and financial

Any advice I give is freely given, though tempered by my opinions

Anyone who joins my Corp is always free to leave if they wish, and find their niche elsewhere, but I will always be available for advice

(this character may not be as old, but I have been playing Eve nonstop since March 2004)
Annir Janau
Research and Analysis Wing
#75 - 2016-09-24 14:07:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Annir Janau
Thanks for this. I know its dynamic, subjective and myriad corps exist but... Is there a thread which overviews some of the more popular corps or types of corps in eve? Everything from general mentality, career path options (or lack thereof), commonalities and so forth. One really cant tell by corps descriptions. This would be a great starting point for new players rather than everyone doing ground up research; share the wisdom pls.
I'm about 7m sp in, doing solo w-hole explo since inception and getting somewhat bored . I'd avoided corps for various speculations and alas, I was justified. I've joined and left two in one week. Id like to explore the social side of eve, but when I reiterate even before joining I'm an amarr w pure explo skills interested in scout / covops, then some d-bag throws a caldari pew pew frig at me w no explanations, Im feeling that notsomuch.
At this point Im considering taking a month training break then coming back and randomly stealth bombing ppl.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#76 - 2016-09-27 07:40:46 UTC
Annir Janau wrote:
Thanks for this. I know its dynamic, subjective and myriad corps exist but... Is there a thread which overviews some of the more popular corps or types of corps in eve? Everything from general mentality, career path options (or lack thereof), commonalities and so forth. One really cant tell by corps descriptions. This would be a great starting point for new players rather than everyone doing ground up research; share the wisdom pls.
I'm about 7m sp in, doing solo w-hole explo since inception and getting somewhat bored . I'd avoided corps for various speculations and alas, I was justified. I've joined and left two in one week. Id like to explore the social side of eve, but when I reiterate even before joining I'm an amarr w pure explo skills interested in scout / covops, then some d-bag throws a caldari pew pew frig at me w no explanations, Im feeling that notsomuch.
At this point Im considering taking a month training break then coming back and randomly stealth bombing ppl.



As far as I know there is no official list like what you are describing but I know EVE university at least used to have a forum where certain corporations would advertise. Without knowing the rules it's possible EVE university does some sort of screening of the corporations they allow to advertise, so that might be worth looking into.

Another suggestion is look for a corporation that will let you just hang out and roam with them for a week or two before joining. Even if it's just hanging out on ts or whatever it will help give you a better (and more realistic) picture of how things are without the recruiter putting a..positive spin on potential bad sides of the corporation Smile

Good luck and don't give up! When you find the right one you won't regret it!

(And suddenly I feel like I'm telling someone that future misses/mister right is out there waiting Lol )
Corporate Capsuleer
Wormhole Hitchhikers
#77 - 2016-09-28 08:55:47 UTC
How do you guys cope with full API? I found few corps that would be 100% for me, but that zero privacy... I cant, I just cant. Mabye I read too much articles read on the internet, about ppl fighting for privacy all day long, made me have a mental barrier so deep that I cant overcome. Is a big nope for me
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#78 - 2016-10-01 04:32:24 UTC
Corporate Capsuleer wrote:
How do you guys cope with full API? I found few corps that would be 100% for me, but that zero privacy... I cant, I just cant. Mabye I read too much articles read on the internet, about ppl fighting for privacy all day long, made me have a mental barrier so deep that I cant overcome. Is a big nope for me


I think this varies a lot from person to person. Personally I never asked for a full API key and there is no way I would give it to someone else.
I wonder if many (especially younger) corporations and recruiters have just read to many horror stories and somehow are convinced the API key is a 100% sure way to avoid trouble.

I do still think it's a good sign that they ask for some information and a limited API key of course. If for nothing else it will discourage lazy and/or bad spies/corp thieves that don't know how to hide the relevant information.
Annir Janau
Research and Analysis Wing
#79 - 2016-10-13 21:16:38 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
Corporate Capsuleer wrote:
How do you guys cope with full API? I found few corps that would be 100% for me, but that zero privacy... I cant, I just cant. Mabye I read too much articles read on the internet, about ppl fighting for privacy all day long, made me have a mental barrier so deep that I cant overcome. Is a big nope for me


I think this varies a lot from person to person. Personally I never asked for a full API key and there is no way I would give it to someone else.
I wonder if many (especially younger) corporations and recruiters have just read to many horror stories and somehow are convinced the API key is a 100% sure way to avoid trouble.

I do still think it's a good sign that they ask for some information and a limited API key of course. If for nothing else it will discourage lazy and/or bad spies/corp thieves that don't know how to hide the relevant information.



Decided to go solo for the moment-- drawbacks of being randomly assassinated by war deccers and full api for little benefit dont add up right now. Most people even in corps play solo.

Limited api yeah maybe, still think it's somewhat pointless. As noted, one would have to be extremely lazy and stupid to have a spy on the same account and give full api. Are those the people clever/ambitious enough to take down your corp?
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#80 - 2016-10-14 06:31:44 UTC
Annir Janau wrote:

Decided to go solo for the moment-- drawbacks of being randomly assassinated by war deccers and full api for little benefit dont add up right now. Most people even in corps play solo.

Limited api yeah maybe, still think it's somewhat pointless. As noted, one would have to be extremely lazy and stupid to have a spy on the same account and give full api. Are those the people clever/ambitious enough to take down your corp?



I would say that highly depends on the corp.
But I would also think that if someone refuses to let anyone see such a basic thing as a limited API key chances are they would be very difficult to deal with if something actually important was needed (like API information for forum access or making sure they have the needed skills for various activities as examples).