Science & Industry

Wait, go to lowsec or NPC nullsec, put up a POS or buy pre-researched BPOs (or pay someone to research them for you). Lots of options.

Form a one-man corp, join a research alliance, rent slots available to alliance members. Problem solved (since you're not willing to take the easy route into low sec).

Then I guess you'll have to wait if you refuse all the other options.

Paying someone else to do it (or buying pre-researched BPOs) is just trading time (research time) for ISK. If you don't want to pay for someone else's time, then spend your time.

If you think so.

But usually there are reasonably priced, well-researched BPCs for sale over contracts. This also has the advantage that you can easily start (and stop) producing pretty much anything, without the initial investment of a researched BPO.

I am also aware of this issue - having had the same thoughts myself. And did the same research you did.

Best is look under contracts (I had a hard time finding this - looked all over the market but in the upper right corner of screen click then come down to business there you will find the contract option) Someone took the time to explain this to me in detail so I could find it!

Unless you put a lot of time into the industrial skills you can only run 3 jobs at a time. If you buy the basic BPO then you can que it up in one of the slots. I did find some that had a 30 day waiting list. Think about it - you que up 3 BPO's and in 30 days you have them to level 1. Then que them up again and in 60 days you can have them to level 2.

Now - what is the price of a BPO in contracts that are researched to level 50 or 100? Those people with access to a POS and have pure industrial alts can que up 10 jobs at a time but you are still looking at a lot of time to get them researched to lvl 100. And the need something to pay the fuel cost of a POS.

Again, what do you think would be a fair price for a fully researched BPO?

And, if you did buy one I think the lines for making copies are not as long and the one for doing research so you could make copies and sell those to recup some of your investment.

But, the question is - do you plan on being an industrialist or is this a sideline thing you are looking at? If it is a side line thing hoping to support some PvP play - do some quick math and I think you will find it is not a real money maker. If you are going the industrial route then you could view it as a long term investment which will pay for itself over time.

Just keep a close eye on the contract sections - not all BPOs are listed for sale all the time. So if you are really interested in something be ready to jump when it becomes available.

Ole Gato

A small pos with a few labs isn't too expensive. If you can't make enough in profit in a month to keep a small pos going, then industry isn't for you.

It's hard to do math.

Variable costs per month run about 120-150M for fuel blocks.

People like me contract out ME slots for very fair prices (22k a slot per hour). We are honest and dependable and deliver a great service. My outfit alone has researched over 5000 BPOs and invented over 2000 T2 BPCs then there is ARLAB and and a few research alliances who can help you. There are many options available to you if you dig

No, CCP wants you to move your really expensive BPO out into null and low sec in a hapless indy so that their gate ganking friends can profit. Even better, they want to be able to hot drop you while cloaked and have zero chance at losses, thereby "fostering" more pvp.