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I want to be a great fair trader - Looking for people to work with
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Marchus Triad
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-03-21 08:55:21 UTC
I really like the market and the economic game, hates scammers.
I want to become a great fair trader so I need two things:

- Money ( working on it )
- Other trusted trader to work with

The goal now is to start a good work to obtain a good reputation.
So if someone want to work with me and help me to learn and both make good business, here I am.


Thanks !
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#2 - 2014-03-21 10:58:40 UTC
Why do you need someone to work with, and what kind of partnership did you have in mind?

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Rykker Bow
Center for Advanced Studies
#3 - 2014-03-21 12:07:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Rykker Bow
Your best teacher in this will be the forums as not many will be willing to teach on an individual basis unless they find that enjoyable in the meta game or it is mutually beneficial.

Pour through the posts and start collecting the small golden nuggets of useful information and apply it to your style of trading. I'll get you started with some advice:

1. routinely check the items you trade and look for new items that are more profitable
2. if it looks too good to be true, it usually is
3. opportunity cost is king
4. never trust another traders advice
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Marchus Triad
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-03-21 13:12:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Marchus Triad
To Elizabeth: with time I want to create a commercial network made of some fair trader, using all the necessary precautions.
I know that it is full of scammers but also there are many capsulers who enjoy to be a part of the economic game, like me, and want to stay in thanks to the good name and reputation.


To Rykker: thanks for the advices, but the last one kills the others Big smile
I'm reading the forum and using the market, what I really need are just some good advices to start earning some good ISK every day with the market.
Up to now I can earn something but not at a good day\week rate.


To both: thanks for the replies Big smile
Axel FoIey
Audacious Entrepreneurial Businesspersons Academy
#5 - 2014-03-21 16:46:56 UTC
Triad, I'll work with you. One more trader in the ocean isn't going to change my profits, and it will put some "market discussion" back into the Market Discussion forum.

I'll shoot you an Eve-mail and a convo. I can coach you via Skype.
Marchus Triad
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-03-21 19:09:42 UTC
Ok thanks, replied.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#7 - 2014-03-21 22:57:03 UTC
Norn's Law - the more you claim you are legitimate, the less I trust you.

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Brock Nelson
#8 - 2014-03-21 23:57:06 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Norn's Law - the more you claim you are legitimate, the less I trust you.


I'm not legit, I can has 22b?Twisted

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cpt Mark
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-03-22 23:12:40 UTC  |  Edited by: cpt Mark
Marchus Triad wrote:
To Elizabeth: with time I want to create a commercial network made of some fair trader, using all the necessary precautions.
I know that it is full of scammers but also there are many capsulers who enjoy to be a part of the economic game, like me, and want to stay in thanks to the good name and reputation.


To Rykker: thanks for the advices, but the last one kills the others Big smile
I'm reading the forum and using the market, what I really need are just some good advices to start earning some good ISK every day with the market.
Up to now I can earn something but not at a good day\week rate.


To both: thanks for the replies Big smile



On a basic principle stick to the market (contracts can be lucrative but are full of so many scams you will be into structure before you even undock).

1) Buy low, sell high
2) Spread your isk across several items
3) Keep an opportunistic ISK fund for times when you see a great opportunity to invest in (ie/ Leopards @ 20 million ISK)
4) Ignore the 0.1 isk bots. Cut them down and they will flee into the hills from once they came
5) Know your market. Gall sectors usually more drone heavy etc etc.
6) Go where the mines are still worth mining - not too busy with traders, not too sparce with customers.

7) INNOVATE TO WIN!

EDIT: Also:

8) Be ruthless. Trust no one, gloat to no one, reveal nothing to no one.

This post is my only exception.
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#10 - 2014-03-23 17:37:51 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
Check out Blueprint Broker as he deals with BPO's and BPC's all of the time. He can get you what you need and what you want at a reasonable price.
Marchus Triad
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-03-24 08:07:18 UTC
To DrysonBennington: Yeah for the blueprints, I also checked and for sure I will go for that way.
I understand that using BP is fundamental.


To Elizabeth Norn: you're right, that's why I say that I want to prove that I'm a fair trader with time and reputation.
Consider this post just a starting point.
Calyce
Terminus Vanguard
#12 - 2014-04-09 10:44:29 UTC
If you want other trusted traders to work with, I am currently building a corp for this exact purpose, the "First Trade Union of New Eden". We have started the corp a few days ago and are currently recruiting, but in the long term we want to support our fellow members and do some joint operations (market manipulation, offering buyback programs to other corps, large scale market seeding, etc.). Our corp structure also reduces the risk of scamming, so you don't have to put blind faith into other corpmates. If you are interested, you can find our advert in the corp finder.

You can also send me an Evemail ingame or convo me when I am online, I would love to help you, no matter whether you join us or not.
Percival Rose
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-04-09 11:08:40 UTC
Calyce wrote:
If you want other trusted traders to work with, I am currently building a corp for this exact purpose, the "First Trade Union of New Eden". We have started the corp a few days ago and are currently recruiting, but in the long term we want to support our fellow members and do some joint operations (market manipulation, offering buyback programs to other corps, large scale market seeding, etc.). Our corp structure also reduces the risk of scamming, so you don't have to put blind faith into other corpmates. If you are interested, you can find our advert in the corp finder.

You can also send me an Evemail ingame or convo me when I am online, I would love to help you, no matter whether you join us or not.

I like the idea. Are you accepting alts too? I have a trader I recently PLEXed again.

Do you know who's going to inherit New Eden? Arms dealers. Because everyone else is too busy killing each other.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#14 - 2014-04-09 12:53:49 UTC
If you wan to trade in eve with someone directly you are either dumb, scammer or Chribba.
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#15 - 2014-04-09 14:50:18 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
Norn's Law - the more you claim you are legitimate, the less I trust you.


I'm not legit, I can has 22b?Twisted

MailDeadDrop's axiom: The contrapositive rarely holds in Eve.

MDD
Professional Forum Alt
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-04-10 08:08:32 UTC
Send me a mail with some details and ideas, and we just might come join you.

We are small group that focus on trade and production, and been doing so for a longer time than we care to admit :D

This is Angelica Everstar's alt
Calyce
Terminus Vanguard
#17 - 2014-04-11 09:23:44 UTC
Percival Rose wrote:

I like the idea. Are you accepting alts too? I have a trader I recently PLEXed again.


Yes, we do. Just search for our advert ingame, contact me when I am online or join our recruitment channel.
Black Madness
Natural Born Builders
New Eden Gambling Alliance
#18 - 2014-04-11 12:39:14 UTC
Making trading, and i am really honest, it's way overestimated.

I mean, there's probably nice money to do in it, and i made it. What i am currently looking today is actually an oversaturated market (al least in the major hubs, that is where you have to be for the killing money).

I remember making 4B in just May 2012, changing orders like 2, 3 times a day, just station trading faction/pirate BS, freighters, and with just 25 B.

Now i am over/underprice in seconds in Jita, Rens, Amarr.

Oh and i am not just picking couple of items, i daily dig down 750 items (have a web app making lots of nice stuff to achieve this).

Morale: don't expect to see big numbers, in the beginning. You might be happy to see you money raising up, but the desirable moment when your finances do not scale up fast is way closer than how it was before.