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Playin with EFT finally...

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Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-11-13 05:37:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
here is what i came up with......



[Abaddon LV4s]

[High]
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)
Mega Pulse Lazer ll......................Scorch L/ mutlifrequency (faction)

[Mid]
Tracking Comp ll...................Opt range
Tracking Comp ll...................Tracking speed
Heavy Cap Booster ll ............Cap booster 800
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor

[Low]
ENAM ll
Armor Hardener ll (change for mission needs)
Armor Hardener ll (change for mission needs)
Damage Control Unit ll
Imperial Navy Large Armor Rep
Heat Sink ll
Heat Sink ll

[Rigs]
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation ll
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation ll
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump l


ok here it is what do u guys think....btw all skill are 4 except what has to be 5 ill proceed to making more 5s once im flying this tight fight almost no room to breath on cpu or powergrid but no implants needed to fly =D
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-11-13 05:50:54 UTC
IF i use the 2 blank hardeners to plug my armor resist holes...i get a nice resist of


80.6% Explosive
81.8% Kinetic

and the EANM carrys my other 2 resists for random extra dmg

74.2% EM
66.4% Therm

Goose99
#3 - 2011-11-13 05:59:39 UTC
Drop dc for 3rd heatsink, drop web for 3rd TC, all range scripted.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#4 - 2011-11-13 06:39:30 UTC
Fit advice so far is good. General EFT advice:

Click the ship icon on the fitting screen. Drop down to copy fit to clipboard. Paste that output rather than typing it out.

Copy a fit in that format. Click on your EFT window. It automagically imports.
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-11-13 07:04:55 UTC
oo ty for the EFT advice =D


[Abaddon, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

there that look more viable...though not having a DCU is kinda scary lol
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-11-13 07:06:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
im kinda wondering what kind of firing range imma have with this set up cant test it for about a month any ideas from u guys?
Teh Frog
Exotic Connections
#7 - 2011-11-13 07:10:09 UTC
Ryzen Daxx wrote:
im kinda what kind of firing range imma have


Wat
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-11-13 07:24:31 UTC
Teh Frog wrote:
Ryzen Daxx wrote:
im kinda what kind of firing range imma have


Wat


i mean EFT doesnt show what kind of optimal or fall off range imma have when in this setup........just curious what kinda range imma be lookin at like 30km 40km ect
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-11-13 07:34:32 UTC
Ryzen Daxx wrote:
im kinda what kind of firing range imma have with this set up cant test it for about a month any ideas from u guys?


firing scorch, 64km optimal + 19 falloff
with multifreq, 21km optimal + 19 falloff
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-11-13 07:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Ryzen Daxx wrote:
im kinda what kind of firing range imma have with this set up cant test it for about a month any ideas from u guys?


firing scorch, 64km optimal + 19 falloff
with multifreq, 21km optimal + 19 falloff



wait wait im confused my buddy plays minmatar AC he says fight in falloff that opt is not viable most the time so in lazers case i have to be atleast 19km away to hit right?

or do i just add the fall off to the optimal in this case?
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-11-13 07:49:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
ok was over cpu Limit with that 3rd heat sink played around abit and found a cheap fix



[Abaddon, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

actually heres a noob question i always wondered does the color of the lens cap effect the color of the lazer?
Sphit Ker
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-11-13 13:24:52 UTC
> or do i just add the fall off to the optimal in this case?

huh. yes. speaking optimal and falloff, autocannons and lasers are much opposites to each others. The former have little optimal but excellent falloff while lasers got excellent optimal but little falloff. That's why he said to fight in falloff. He was thinking with AC, not lasers.

Falloff goes beyond falloff.

> actually heres a noob question i always wondered does the color of the lens cap effect the color of the lazer?

Not sure what you mean exactly by "cap" but the colour of the laser do match the colour of the crystal. Gamma is blue therefor blue laser. Scorch is purple and so the laser is purple and so on.

It knows what you think.

Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-11-13 14:07:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Ryzen Daxx wrote:
im kinda what kind of firing range imma have with this set up cant test it for about a month any ideas from u guys?


firing scorch, 64km optimal + 19 falloff
with multifreq, 21km optimal + 19 falloff




soooo if i understand correct using scorch L ill have an effective range of 80ish KM.........wow that is almost as good as cruise missiles


btw ty Mfume thats what i was lookin for
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-11-13 14:17:05 UTC
Sphit Ker wrote:
> or do i just add the fall off to the optimal in this case?

huh. yes. speaking optimal and falloff, autocannons and lasers are much opposites to each others. The former have little optimal but excellent falloff while lasers got excellent optimal but little falloff. That's why he said to fight in falloff. He was thinking with AC, not lasers.

Falloff goes beyond falloff.

> actually heres a noob question i always wondered does the color of the lens cap effect the color of the lazer?

Not sure what you mean exactly by "cap" but the colour of the laser do match the colour of the crystal. Gamma is blue therefor blue laser. Scorch is purple and so the laser is purple and so on.


then here is a question. i kno my friend doesnt have this kind of range with his AC if that is the case and im not missing something is there i min distance i have to worry or is that for rails siege and beams? and what makin everyone scream so much about AC in pvp?
Orlacc
#15 - 2011-11-13 16:46:34 UTC
Since you seem to know very little why are you in a BS????????


Also, in EFT click on gun and "charge info" to see opt and falloff..

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-11-13 17:03:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
Orlacc wrote:
Since you seem to know very little why are you in a BS????????


Also, in EFT click on gun and "charge info" to see opt and falloff..

i have been caldari since start im moving to amarr thats why im trying to learn everything i can now...missiles dont have to worry bout falloff and opt range

btw isnt that also the point too learn cant know everything from the start.......better to ask and read then to make a mistake and flush isk down teh crapper
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2011-11-13 17:12:29 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Since you seem to know very little why are you in a BS????????


Also, in EFT click on gun and "charge info" to see opt and falloff..

just tried that and just gives what the tool tip says nothing more i was asking for general range numbers u get from these ammo that EFT doesnt show but ty for the response anyways
Orlacc
#18 - 2011-11-13 18:30:58 UTC
There is Optimal and there is Falloff......what are 'general range numbers?'

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-11-13 19:11:27 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Ryzen Daxx wrote:
im kinda what kind of firing range imma have with this set up cant test it for about a month any ideas from u guys?


firing scorch, 64km optimal + 19 falloff
with multifreq, 21km optimal + 19 falloff

what Mfume posted was what i was lookin for his general range he gets with his set up...
Ryzen Daxx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2011-11-13 19:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryzen Daxx
Orlacc wrote:
There is Optimal and there is Falloff......what are 'general range numbers?'

all i see in the EFT that u pointed out is scorch increases by 50%...fine but that not accounting for skills other mods ect i was askin seeing as i have never got to fire a lazer yet and cant for another month what was the range ppl were looking at with there setups
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