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High sec Mission runners just got completely screwed by CCP

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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#1101 - 2014-05-11 00:39:57 UTC
Falin Whalen wrote:
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Weaselior wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.




i actually missed it what was it


+1

which boost why when and how?

Don't tell them, because Dinsdale, will proclaim it a stealth nerf to higsec mission runners, and we'll have another ~50 pages of tinfoil hattery from him.


EDIT: On second thought, I need a laugh this week, please continue.


I also would like to know what this boost was to high sec mission runners.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1102 - 2014-05-11 03:42:55 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:



Who said anything about the whole 48% drop being in subs?
But a portion of it is attributable to it.
CCP could prove me wrong in an instant, simply by releasing the numbers....

Still waiting.


"because a 48% percent drop in players voting is ridiculous to pawn off on CSM disillusionment exclusively."


I take it you are now backtracking from that statement?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1103 - 2014-05-11 03:48:35 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

There is no question that the game is stagnant.

omfg we're not breaking the PCU record every day EVE is dying

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Mistah Ewedynao
Ice Axe Psycho Killers
#1104 - 2014-05-11 04:18:48 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

There is no question that the game is stagnant.

omfg we're not breaking the PCU record every day EVE is dying



Nope it's not dying.

It's being killed by Goons. Especially Goon Devs ingame and Goon ISD"s on the forums.

No big deal, as Eve is becoming more boring everyday. Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts in honor of this latest Goonie inspired "expansion".

And yeah...I'd rather be a pubbie (WTF that is I don't know and don't care) for the rest of my life then a Goonie for even an hour.

Congratulations CCP for helping the Goons to achieve their original goal....to ruin the game.

Nerf Goons

Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#1105 - 2014-05-11 04:23:54 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

There is no question that the game is stagnant.

omfg we're not breaking the PCU record every day EVE is dying



Nope it's not dying.

It's being killed by Goons. Especially Goon Devs ingame and Goon ISD"s on the forums.

No big deal, as Eve is becoming more boring everyday. Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts in honor of this latest Goonie inspired "expansion".

And yeah...I'd rather be a pubbie (WTF that is I don't know and don't care) for the rest of my life then a Goonie for even an hour.

Congratulations CCP for helping the Goons to achieve their original goal....to ruin the game.


How dare CCP reward greater risk!
Beofryn Sedorak
#1106 - 2014-05-11 04:24:14 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
No big deal, as Eve is becoming more boring everyday. Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts in honor of this latest Goonie inspired "expansion".


If anything is hurting EVE, It's ignorance like this.

The industry changes are for the benefit and longevity of the entire economy. Anything else is nothing more than a side effect. It's a shame you're incapable of comprehending this.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1107 - 2014-05-11 04:33:36 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Not bothering to sub 2 of my accounts

Yeah, nobody cares.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1108 - 2014-05-11 04:43:08 UTC
buff to mission running?

c'mon.. what it was ? :P
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1109 - 2014-05-11 05:00:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Barton Breau
Boost, what boost?
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#1110 - 2014-05-11 05:47:29 UTC
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:
Xavier Higdon wrote:
Cipher Jones wrote:


They don't have to. The server has an API that we can all see, and its tracked by a website daily. The server peaked in winter of 2011, and right now there are less people on average than when I started in '08 ('09 really, started on new years eve).

So while I wont really challenge their respect or love, the business incentive is failing by the universal standard of 'growing your business is good'.

Unfortunately for them, nerfing everything repeatedly pisses people off.

And I haven't read the whole thread, but they introduced the noctis into the game and revamped marauders. Then announced they were nerfing their profession. Not a brilliant decision IMHO.


Actually, the server peaked May 5th, 2013 at 19:20:42(unknown timezone, probably EvE time) with 65,303 players online. Currently there are about 45,000 players online, which is greater than at any time in 2008 or 2009. Now, there has been a recent drop in players online in the past week or so, but that is just part of the natural ebb and flow of MMOs, and has been rectified with today's numbers. I'm unsure where you're getting your information from, but it appears to be incorrect.


As I said, the API. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

There is no question that the game is stagnant.


Have you looked at that page? There are about 45,000 players online right now. That's greater than at any time in 2008, 2009 and 2011. How, exactly, do you infer that the game has stagnated from the information provided by that website? You say the game peaked in the winter of 2011, but the information provided there shows a decline in players online during the winter of 2011. How is that a peak? Unless you're arguing that the game's lack of active players peaked in winter of 2011, in which case you might be right. Second, like baltec1 said, the website does not track subscriptions, and so we have no means of knowing exactly how many individual people are playing, but rather just the number of accounts signed in. And finally, EvE Online's subscription numbers have been steadily increasing since the game was launched. There are over 500,000 subscribed accounts, which is counter to what you're arguing.


FFS.

The all time graph shows the average amount of players online daily. The other Graphs show the peak. The The average on the day I started was 28.8k The last average was 28.7k.

@ baltec, yeah, I realize its not the actual number of subs. However, it directly reflects the number of people playing the game. The number of people playing the game is not growing, which is critical to their business.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Josef Djugashvilis
#1111 - 2014-05-11 06:02:24 UTC
Boost to hi-sec mission runners?

Do tell, as the faster I can earn isk doing them, the less time I can spend on them and the more time I can spend doing lo-sec pvp.

Although I never loot missions, I do understand the drop in the gains to be made to loot reprocessing as I assume it is to boost mining.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1112 - 2014-05-11 06:03:42 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
omg the average daily PCU went down 0.3% eve is dying

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Josef Djugashvilis
#1113 - 2014-05-11 06:12:19 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.





Do share this information with us, you know, the player base you speak on behalf of.

I have a vested interest as I want hi-sec missions to be boosted Smile

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fudface
ACME-INC
#1114 - 2014-05-11 06:47:15 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec.
In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 45-50% nerf (correction from the original post, the null sec lackeys were even more vicious than I first thought) to all mission loot refines.




if CCP destroys the income streams for hisec. surely that means they will have to make hisec safer to preserve the risk reward balance?

my 2 isk worth
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#1115 - 2014-05-11 07:22:33 UTC
Mistah Ewedynao wrote:
Congratulations CCP for helping the Goons to achieve their original goal....to ruin the game.


Pretty sure their mission is to ruin *our* game, not *the* game.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1116 - 2014-05-11 08:55:34 UTC
fudface wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Folks, read the newest dev blog. The goons in the post are gloating in their posts, so you know it is terrible for high sec.
In a few months, mission runners will now have to invest weeks and weeks of training, plus buy a hideously expensive implant, to get the privilege of a 45-50% nerf (correction from the original post, the null sec lackeys were even more vicious than I first thought) to all mission loot refines.




if CCP destroys the income streams for hisec. surely that means they will have to make hisec safer to preserve the risk reward balance?

1. you can't 'destroy' income streams for highsec: marketing will always be present unless you move all the stuff to 0.0 and make these people trade there
2. risk/reward is totally subjective measure. you can do nothing to make all the people agree with its state at any moment

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1117 - 2014-05-11 08:57:46 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.




Obligatory "wut" of the day.
Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#1118 - 2014-05-11 09:24:05 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.




Obligatory "wut" of the day.



I believe it's called sarcasm. Malcanis means the opposite to what he said.

sarcasm n. (use of) bitter or wounding ironic language . sarcastic adj. sarcastically adv.

I would be interesting to know Malcanis star sign for his RL birthdate to try and figure out his motivation.
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1119 - 2014-05-11 09:29:29 UTC
Sarcasm will make me sad panda.
Dave Stark
#1120 - 2014-05-11 10:11:44 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
So I don't know if anyone noticed but hi-sec mission runners just got a nice boost announced at fanfest.




i actually missed it what was it

the ability to save 700m+ per month as you don't need to keep your noctis alt's account active.