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New reprocessing and pos refine.

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RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#1 - 2014-03-20 16:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: RudinV
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reprocess-all-the-things/
Might miss something, but cant find how it will work at POS refine. Any information about?
opened my eyes. 52-54%...u must b kiddin guys. i dont mine at all, but since it is not the most popular WH activity some improvements were expected.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-03-20 17:11:39 UTC
RudinV wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/reprocess-all-the-things/
Might miss something, but cant find how it will work at POS refine. Any information about?
opened my eyes. 52-54%...u must b kiddin guys. i dont mine at all, but since it is not the most popular WH activity some improvements were expected.



I'm guessing the chances of finding mining ops will go up. And tears of those trying to sell a low class WH with a rorq will get laughed at.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#3 - 2014-03-20 17:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
this looks like a huge boost to wh mining. It allows you to get full value when exporting mined rocks, without giving you full value for getting usable minerals inside the wh.

edit: scratch that, you really are getting usable minerals.

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Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
#4 - 2014-03-20 18:04:11 UTC
Fantastic. Please god do something with the Rorq.
Marsan
#5 - 2014-03-20 19:02:38 UTC
This reminds me note to self buy a Rorq in the next couple of months. They can't possibly get any cheaper....

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RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#6 - 2014-03-20 19:15:33 UTC
are the mining bonuses from orca and rorq different? cose yes, it looks like smooth boost to low class wh mining, without any benefits to c5-6, at least u dont rly need rorq
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD
Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
#7 - 2014-03-20 19:57:10 UTC
currently orca boost is a little better when not in siege mode and rorquel boost is better when in siege mode
Robert Morningstar
Morningstar Excavations LTD
Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
#8 - 2014-03-20 19:58:45 UTC
The prior benefit to the rorquel was the compression because at best you get only 75% from the intense refinery array currently. so you could compress then haul to hi sec station for 100% refine.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#9 - 2014-03-20 23:38:22 UTC
I like that. It makes sense.
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
#10 - 2014-03-21 03:57:58 UTC
I guess some you missed that rorq's will be obsolete in c1-c4 space. Medium intensive array is being changed to a compression array. Also not 100% sure if the intensive array is getting buffed compared to empire or not. Right now @ 75% max, it's downright pitiful. They also didn't touch on ice refine at array that's always at 100%.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#11 - 2014-03-21 05:03:16 UTC
Adoris Nolen wrote:
I guess some you missed that rorq's will be obsolete in c1-c4 space. Medium intensive array is being changed to a compression array. Also not 100% sure if the intensive array is getting buffed compared to empire or not. Right now @ 75% max, it's downright pitiful. They also didn't touch on ice refine at array that's always at 100%.


Check the comments thread. It looks like:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4365776#post4365776

-pos can compress ore
-pos doesn't take skills into account
-pos yield is like refining at a 52/54% station with max skills and implant - these gives 75.3% and 78.1% yield
-npc station yield is 50% -results in 72.4% yield
-max upgraded sov station is 60% base. 86.6% max yield.

But ores/ices are getting adjusted upward so that the 72.4 is about the same as you get now, but at a max upgraded minmatar outpost, the same amount of ore with max everything will net you 14.4% more minerals than currently.

This means reprocessing in a pos will be better than a 50% refine station, whether that pos is in hisec or w-space.

The implications are quite big i think.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-03-21 05:37:13 UTC
Adoris Nolen wrote:
I guess some you missed that rorq's will be obsolete in c1-c4 space.


Didn't really read all of the posts did ya?
Winthorp
#13 - 2014-03-21 08:13:50 UTC
It is a really good change, i like it.

Now if they could change ore sites back to needing to be scanned we could go back to the days of WH's being filled like a wonderland with Hulks.
Chitsa Jason
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-03-21 09:56:38 UTC
I mentioned multiple times that there should be some kind of compensation for wormhole miners now that grav sites were moved to the anomalies. It is great that CCP listened to most of our feedback and made the Refining POS mods useful. Rorq will definatelly need some kind of a boost. Also changes are not final so go feedback! :)

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RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#15 - 2014-03-21 10:02:33 UTC
the best boost rorq for wh space: allow clone vat work in w-space.
Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#16 - 2014-03-21 10:07:14 UTC
RudinV wrote:
the best boost rorq for wh space: allow clone vat work in w-space.


I would support this. As long as you and the rorq are in the same system, insta-respawn at rorq. If you're not in system with the rorq w/clone bay active, you're boned.

Otherwise hell no.

.......I'm inclined to say no to the preceding statement atm too.......
dirtydebbs
the wreking crew
#17 - 2014-03-21 10:39:21 UTC
Himnos Altar wrote:
RudinV wrote:
the best boost rorq for wh space: allow clone vat work in w-space.


I would support this. As long as you and the rorq are in the same system, insta-respawn at rorq. If you're not in system with the rorq w/clone bay active, you're boned.

Otherwise hell no.

.......I'm inclined to say no to the preceding statement atm too.......




I mentiond this when two step was going for csm, and would love for that to happen,

having it active constantly would be like drone assists used to be 1 guy/alt wasted sitting at a pos afk,

but could have 2 options

1)why not just have it so you can store clones so you can have expensive clones stored when going on a suicide af roam ect then swop back instead of having to jump clones in hs then get back in the wh, if you survive the roam that is lol

2) having a rorq as a active clone bay to instantly respawn in the same system is a bad idea unless used with the rorq only beign able to keep x amount of clones like in dust but say also the rorq pilot has to have x amount of bio mass ( corpses) to make new ones then that is a good idea in my eyes,

the idea of putting the grav sites back into scan sigs is a really good idea more people will mine again = more targets more fun more risk reward

with the pos module aswell it should open up more activitys for lower class minning corps to be more fruitfull
RudinV
Sons Of Mother's Friend
Can i bring my Drake...
#18 - 2014-03-21 11:10:45 UTC
clone thing in my point was a counter to main wh eviction tactic this days. U control the static> u win the game (except c6- ur batphone friends can roll it with luck) Available clone at home system will make timer fights more possible, evictions more interesting and more skill/preparations requiring. Non stop clone jumping fix: cooldown on it, limited amount of clones etc.
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#19 - 2014-03-21 18:23:00 UTC
I'm not a fan of being able to pod back to w-space, as that increases what is already a hefty advantage for the defender. I do however support being able to switch clones in wspace, so that you can change from a capital clone to a subcap to a blank one for null roams, etc.

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Nox Arnoux
New Jovian Exploration Department
New Jovian Collective
#20 - 2014-03-21 18:47:24 UTC
RudinV wrote:
the best boost rorq for wh space: allow clone vat work in w-space.


In its current form, a working clone vat bay in w-space would make jumping into someone else's home system a fool's errand.
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