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Winter SUMMARY ~redux~ UPDATED 11/26

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#21 - 2011-11-13 11:50:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Dev stelath mode. They has its, they're supposed to have it on unless they make a post regarding something offical in annourcment however I susepct alot of them forget to turn the mode off.

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DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-11-13 11:51:23 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

Why is this thread missing the blue dev-tag,
altough a dev posted in it ?

I think it's because the dev post was informing us of a thread clean-up, rather than actually containing useful information/jokes.
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#23 - 2011-11-13 11:52:32 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:

Why is this thread missing the blue dev-tag,
altough a dev posted in it ?

I think it's because the dev post was informing us of a thread clean-up, rather than actually containing useful information/jokes.

TBH I feel robbed ;)

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Alara IonStorm
#24 - 2011-11-13 11:58:54 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:

Why is this thread missing the blue dev-tag,
altough a dev posted in it ?

It was a complaint on the old forum.

Someone would start a thread named like CCP Please Fix Hybrids and someone would make an off topic post or it would get moved and it is like 20 Pages long and growing. So people browsing the forums would be sifting through the thread just to come across an Off Topic post Removed then have to finish sifting to see if there was a real Dev Post after that.

This way if a Dev actually has something to say you can identify it and look it up using the Dev Finder tool.
Solhild
Doomheim
#25 - 2011-11-13 12:20:48 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
Solhild wrote:
Player made orbital infrastructure - on Crucible intro login page?

Thats a caldari station/outpost. Labratory type if i recall right

I was about to make a more detailed one but you beat me to it, well at least this is more expandable until launch day.


In truth, I didn't recognise the outpost but I'm thinking that the login will have the new infrastructure and new BCs, assuming current ones are placeholders.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2011-11-13 12:28:33 UTC

Aaaahhh ... so basically, trolls are the reason.
Thanks for clearing it up !
Neo Agricola
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2011-11-13 13:01:17 UTC
Thank you very much!

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Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#28 - 2011-11-13 13:50:16 UTC
I think corp and alliance chat bulletins are a go...

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#29 - 2011-11-13 14:11:00 UTC
Pattern Clarc wrote:
I think corp and alliance chat bulletins are a go...


Fleet MoTD? :puppyeyes:

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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StarRanger 2ndClass
Comms Black
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2011-11-13 15:03:46 UTC  |  Edited by: StarRanger 2ndClass
You know there is something called like "Patch Notes" that comes out ... right? Shocked

http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#31 - 2011-11-13 15:17:26 UTC
StarRanger 2ndClass wrote:
You know there is something called like "Patch Notes" that comes out ... right? Shocked

http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp

You know they don't release "Patch Notes" until right before the patch comes out ... right? Shocked

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#32 - 2011-11-13 19:55:46 UTC
We're pre-emptively making a patch notes.

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Killmeded
Conkord Everything
#33 - 2011-11-14 02:11:35 UTC
On SISI the autolinked text is nolonger yellow --- its white and does not stand out near as much X

Please fix this -- I hope this is not a feature

Guristas should have "BIGGER" Skull Bunnies in the default paintjob. Guristas and all other pirates should get custom ships like angels (or at LEAST fix the HIDEOUS Moa/Gila hull).
Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#34 - 2011-11-14 02:15:18 UTC
Killmeded wrote:
On SISI the autolinked text is nolonger yellow --- its white and does not stand out near as much X

Please fix this -- I hope this is not a feature


I second this, I've fallen in love with the classic orange hyper link color in EVE.

Hopefully this gets fixed along with no rightclick availability in chat windows, and capital i being utterly indistinguishable from lower case L.

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Deth Tu Ignorance
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2011-11-14 02:45:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Deth Tu Ignorance
EDIT --- Please ignore this rant -- this problem was addressed already but thank everyone that has helped get this "pre-patch notes" up and running so that we can have input on all the changes :)

Quote:
From http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3029

The four racial fuel blocks will be built in batches of four in all stations, plus starbase ammo assembly arrays (blueprints coming to a Thukker Mix station near you; build time approximately ten minutes). Each batch of four will need the following components:
• 8x Coolant
• 4x Enriched Uranium
• 400x relevant racial Isotope
• 4x Mechanical Parts
• 20x Oxygen
• 1x Robotics
• 150x Heavy Water
• 150x Liquid Ozone

Towers will use 1 block/hour for small, 2 blocks/hour for medium and 4 blocks/hour for large. The CPU and Power load will no longer have any impact on your fuel needs - all towers now need the same amount of fuel, regardless of configuration.

Blocks will be 50m3 each. To make fuel bay sizes line up more nicely, we've boosted the bays on normal towers to 35/70/140k, so you get a nice round 700 cycles in each, which works out at a hair over 29 days. (Does not affect strontium bays!)

The one downside of this big-blocks approach is that it's impossible to give faction towers a fuel consumption bonus any more (you can't consume 2/3 of a block). We talked to some large-scale starbase operators about this, and they told us that the main bonus of faction towers for them is actually that they last longer between fuel cycles. To try and compensate for the increased running costs, we've taken the above bay size increases and added +25% bay size on top of that for the "tier 1" faction towers, and +50% bay size for the "tier 2" ones. We're hoping people will find that a satisfactory tradeoff, but we're listening for further feedback on this change.


I don't mind the CPU/powergrid tradeoff for the simplification but the complete loss of the bonus for the faction towers is just wrong.

This is NOT a satisfactory trade off ----

With the current proposal each current block is 50m3 and are made in batches of 4

thats 200 m3 to work with

one possibility is to change it to producing 40 blocks at 5m3 apiece
then having small towers need 10
tier 1 factions need 9
tier 2 factions need 8

so u CAN consume a fraction of a block.

My specific numbers are a rough guess and there is prob a division that is more equivalent to current for running towers but the division is EASILY possible.

Normal towers would still use the same amount of fuel at the same cost and ocupying the same ammount of space --- BUT this would let people that paid insane amounts of isk for thier faction towers to benefit from that investment.

If this is not remedied then faction towers are just going to be collector items.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#36 - 2011-11-14 02:48:49 UTC
fuel blocks already noted in the links

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Iam Widdershins
Project Nemesis
#37 - 2011-11-14 03:03:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Iam Widdershins
Deth Tu Ignorance wrote:
one possibility is to change it to producing 40 blocks at 5m3 apiece
then having small towers need 10
tier 1 factions need 9
tier 2 factions need 8

This has actually already been addressed, per this post. I'll update the OP.

(Though they wouldn't just be collector's items; remember that they would have more fitting, more shields, and a faster deployment time.)

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#38 - 2011-11-14 16:20:35 UTC
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=358849#post358849

CCP Ytterbium wrote:
Here is the latest update on these ships:

NAGA


  • Missile role removed, now focuses as a hybrid platform
  • 10% Torpedo velocity per level swapped for 5% to Large Hybrid Turret damage per level


As pointed out, even with the velocity bonus, torpedoes have a too short of a range to be useful in practical situation with the Naga since it has the lowest mobility of all tier 3 battlecruisers and quite poor defensive options. Aligning this ship into a missile platform would have required a long range option as well, meaning the use of cruise missiles, which created a certain number of issues.

Specializing for a hybrid long range platform made more sense with the Naga role, which is why the damage bonus was appealing, especially when combined with CCP Tallest changes; it also makes more sense regarding Caldari tier philosophy, where highest tech 1 tiers usually are hybrid platforms (Merlin, Moa, Rokh).


TALOS


  • 25m3 dronebay and bandwidth added


Even if quite in opposition with the tier 3 battlecruiser role design, it adds an edge this ship needs over the other variants, especially since the Naga now it does the same damage with Hybrids. So, while we are looking at the blaster situation, we agreed giving the Talos a bit more survability against smaller threats was a good compromise for the time being.


TORNADO


  • Large Projectile Turret Falloff reduced from 10 to 5% per level


The reason for this reduction was mainly due to the range falloff reaches on autocannons when combined with the proper rigs, Barrage and Tracking Enchancers, dwarfing blasters in the close range department; we will see how the situation evolves and possibly make further changes to compensate.


Also, please note some small powergrid/CPU changes may happen to the tier 3 battlecruisers in the next build.

Thanks for your time.



Also new Sisi patch today expect another round and storm of OMG updates.

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Callic Veratar
#39 - 2011-11-14 16:47:26 UTC
A new mystery has appeared: link
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#40 - 2011-11-14 17:14:30 UTC
New build out today though so it may be up already.

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