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Winchester Steele
#41 - 2014-03-17 16:39:46 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
Just wait for S_ _ _ C_ _ _ _ _ _ and you'll get a real space sim. I know I am. Twisted



You'd have as much luck trying to smoke Star Citizen as play it. But if it ever does become something besides vapour it won't compete with Eve at all. If you would like to know why it won't, check my sig. Most capsuleers I play with have 0 interest in a WoW in space clone.

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X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
#42 - 2014-03-17 16:40:00 UTC
Jim Era wrote:
But we get monocles.


some people even get -left- monocles *flex*

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#43 - 2014-03-17 16:47:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
IcyMind Arierep wrote:
I been playing for a month. The first few days it was tough learning what to do. Now I been doing PvE and sometimes PVP . Everytime I died I got a story too tell. I usually even talk to people who killed me and I learn more, and that gets me into new things to try. The game is awesome, and is in space. and this comments comes from someone that does not have a lot of time to spend in it.

I like the butterfly effect of all the actions of the game.

THe part I love and hate is when I loose my ship I loose a lot, but I rememeber why i lost it..

Flyem Safe
OP should take a leaf out of this guys book, in fact he should steal or borrow the entire damn book.

Month in, willing to explode and learn from it, post fight talks with his opponents with what I assume are pertinent questions, he gets Eve and is showing the proper attitude required to enjoy everything it offers.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2014-03-17 16:57:00 UTC
Caddis Borealis wrote:
...the game is boring.

1* Ship movement is hollywood physics.

2* Stations do have only hangar and one room. Where are others? Why I can't interact with others in stations?

3* PVE is really, really, really, really, really boring. Level two and I am done with it. Exploration is the same, but with RNG deciding if you get fancy loot after gazillion clicks.

4* Weapons and combat is boring. Press F1 and that's it. Maybe orbit, maybe little bit of distance control, but that's it.

5* Industrial and market are okay, but trading game...not fun. It's boring.

6* Training skills takes forever. Your personal skills do not matter. Skills are just timers that tell you to come back six months later.

7* Game feels like second job. That's not fun.

Ugh!

S!


1. Even worse than hollywood physics. At least spaceship battles in hollywood have clear battlelines and positioning instead of an incoherent blob.

2. Because you don't need to. Walking in stations is cool, but it's really just a gimmick.

3. Try incursions, those are actually require you to fly with other people, have a fleet commander, and not suck at the game. They pay way too much money also.

4. Large blob fights are like that, but gang and solo warfare is the exact opposite.

5. EVE has the best in game economy. To each his own.

6. Skills are extremely important. How do you fly ships without skilling them? What are you talking about?

7. You're doing it wrong.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#45 - 2014-03-17 17:13:03 UTC
Well EVE is fun for me. And it was fun for my client who was in teamspeak last night/this morning for 6 1/2 hours.

OP seems to be doing it wrong. But oh well, does anyone want his stuff?

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.

Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#46 - 2014-03-17 17:24:33 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
This is a game for adults. We adults aren't really impressed by eye candy. In fact. We play this 'cause we don't have to spend a lot of time looking at eye candy.

We like to pretend we can speak for others.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#47 - 2014-03-17 17:34:39 UTC
OP, EVE isn't...that bad !
Sintiar Loffwagea
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-03-17 17:41:12 UTC
. i think eve is better than Other MMO is it's self and clear in goal and player can interact with development . do other game change goal by developer and so one thing i really dislike is game that never end by sent new max level new weapon new upgrade and need to farming boss and farming money to take the lead and continues with this cycles is damn boring, other MMO after update huge patchs and make player take they time to do that thing is damn bored .
Harbonah
Short Bus Window Licker
#49 - 2014-03-17 17:41:54 UTC
Why do people perpetually insist on making posts about how boring the game is and why they are quitting. If you are quitting, your not longer paying CCP money so your opinion is irrelevant.

Only the people who actually give CCP money have the right to complain about the game. Goodbye OP, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#50 - 2014-03-17 17:47:40 UTC
Game certainly is clinical dead at times but there is no way around it movement and travel are pain most of the time pve is archaic, but pvp and ppl interactions are better part of it.

you just need to find a balance and have two monitors so you can play other games.

Wasting your life piloting a freighter 40j round trip or having metric ton of fun playing other games you decide.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#51 - 2014-03-17 17:48:49 UTC
Harbonah wrote:
Only the people who actually give CCP money have the right to complain about the game. Goodbye OP, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If you ran a business like this, you would go broke.

People who quit = lost revenue. Lose enough revenue and don't bother to address why is a formula for failure.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#52 - 2014-03-17 17:55:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Harbonah wrote:
Only the people who actually give CCP money have the right to complain about the game. Goodbye OP, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If you ran a business like this, you would go broke.

People who quit = lost revenue. Lose enough revenue and don't bother to address why is a formula for failure.


Funny enough, most MMOs which completely bent over to satisfy every possible short time entitlement by their "customers" are now Reposing In Peace.

Yeah to EvE this means forever staying a "small size" product, clearly identified by its features and limits. But that's it, who plays EvE knows it's just like that and won't demand to turn it inside out.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#53 - 2014-03-17 18:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Caddis Borealis wrote:
...the game is boring.

1* Ship movement is hollywood physics.

2* Stations do have only hangar and one room. Where are others? Why I can't interact with others in stations?

3* PVE is really, really, really, really, really boring. Level two and I am done with it. Exploration is the same, but with RNG deciding if you get fancy loot after gazillion clicks.

4* Weapons and combat is boring. Press F1 and that's it. Maybe orbit, maybe little bit of distance control, but that's it.

5* Industrial and market are okay, but trading game...not fun. It's boring.

6* Training skills takes forever. Your personal skills do not matter. Skills are just timers that tell you to come back six months later.

7* Game feels like second job. That's not fun.

Ugh!

S!


Many already gave the most appropriate replies but I'll add mine.


EvE is for people who can think and plan long term.

It's like a table top strategy game. You plan, you move your Risk lil tanks anticipating the others, you start your long term passive ISK revenue machine that will fuel your plans.

With EvE you think MACRO and - if you want - you may play micro, but it's not even needed. However playing micro is one of the most hair raising experiences.
Try some small gang PvP in the middle of 0.0 enemy sov, you suddenly see local spike and before you now you have 30-40 blinking red enemies whose only purpose is to make you work hard to recoup your (corp) losses and - on a macro perspective - hit your corp competitiveness in the grand scale of the game.


This is why most will NEVER "get" EvE.

EvE is not just a MMO, it's a Game of Life and may last a life.

Submarine physics and other stuff is just as relevant as in Risk is having red or black painted tanks.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#54 - 2014-03-17 18:02:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Harbonah wrote:
Why do people perpetually insist on making posts about how boring the game is and why they are quitting. If you are quitting, your not longer paying CCP money so your opinion is irrelevant.


Thing is, they aren't quitting. Post like these are their passive-aggressive attempt to force the developer to change the game to their liking. The people who really quit never make a big deal about it where as those who claim they are quitting continue to poor money into CCPs coffers lol.

The people who claim to be quitting (or just showing dissatisfaction) are usually the same who predict that EVE will meet it's demise when Jump Gate erm Black Prophecy, I mean Star Trek Online..erm SWG, uhm SWTOR erh Star Citizen finally comes out.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#55 - 2014-03-17 18:06:37 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Funny enough, most MMOs which completely bent over to satisfy every possible short time entitlement by their "customers" are now Reposing In Peace.

Yeah to EvE this means forever staying a "small size" product, clearly identified by its features and limits. But that's it, who plays EvE knows it's just like that and won't demand to turn it inside out.

Why did you quote my post if you're just going to mindlessly rant about something unrelated?

Past performance is not always indicative of future behavior, otherwise NOTHING would change. Just because you have some anecdotal experience doesn't mean that translates into an absolute truth, and it seems to me the fact you can post freely on the internet, has created a situation where you confuse your perception of reality, with objective reality itself.

In other words, less autism pls.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#56 - 2014-03-17 18:07:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Jenn aSide wrote:


The people who claim to be quitting (or jsut showing dissatisfaction) are usually the same who predict that EVE will meet it's demise when Jump Gate erm Black Prophecy, I mean Star Trek Online..erm SWG, uhm SWTOR erh Star Citizen finally comes out.


I hope SC won't end up being vaporware and to be as awesome as the small gameplay I had with its current available bits show to be.

Said that, it somewhat overlaps with EvE's theme but just a bit.

Imo Project Entropia (the space section) is much more of an EvE competing game than SC will ever be.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#57 - 2014-03-17 18:10:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:

Why did you quote my post if you're just going to mindlessly rant about something unrelated?


I don't know what I have exactly said to annoy you so much to explode in such reply.
However I know I can post whatever I want as long as I am within the forum EULA, so, the "why" is: "because I felt like to".


Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:

Past performance is not always indicative of future behavior, otherwise NOTHING would change. Just because you have some anecdotal experience doesn't mean that translates into an absolute truth, and it seems to me the fact you can post freely on the internet, has created a situation where you confuse your perception of reality, with objective reality itself.

In other words, less autism pls.


I am LIVING in RL because of what I have learned in EvE and copy pasted in RL.

So, yeah, my perception of reality is somewhat biased on that :D
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#58 - 2014-03-17 18:16:31 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
I don't know what I have exactly said to annoy you so much to explode in such reply.
However I know I can post whatever I want as long as I am within the forum EULA, so, the "why" is: "because I felt like to".

I am, therefore I shiptoast.

Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
I am LIVING in RL because of what I have learned in EvE and copy pasted in RL.

Can you point out who on this forum is not living in RL?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

DreamWizard
Infernal Fury
#59 - 2014-03-17 18:28:23 UTC
Caddis Borealis wrote:
...the game is boring.

1* Ship movement is hollywood physics.

2* Stations do have only hangar and one room. Where are others? Why I can't interact with others in stations?

3* PVE is really, really, really, really, really boring. Level two and I am done with it. Exploration is the same, but with RNG deciding if you get fancy loot after gazillion clicks.

4* Weapons and combat is boring. Press F1 and that's it. Maybe orbit, maybe little bit of distance control, but that's it.

5* Industrial and market are okay, but trading game...not fun. It's boring.

6* Training skills takes forever. Your personal skills do not matter. Skills are just timers that tell you to come back six months later.

7* Game feels like second job. That's not fun.

Ugh!

S!


WoW is <<<<< that way

but really this game is not for everyone coming up on 10 years here still the best game out there and believe me I lived through all the burps in this game and they have always been handle well..

I have seen the Grid of eve the place of blackness and gridlines... anyone remember the click in space and warp to :) took me 2 days but I got there
Harbonah
Short Bus Window Licker
#60 - 2014-03-17 19:09:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Harbonah
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Harbonah wrote:
Only the people who actually give CCP money have the right to complain about the game. Goodbye OP, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If you ran a business like this, you would go broke.

People who quit = lost revenue. Lose enough revenue and don't bother to address why is a formula for failure.



Ultima Online, Star Wars Galaxies, Mortal Online, Haven and Hearth, Warhammer, the list goes on,

the list of MMO's that fall due to massive changes demanded by a growing cast of people screaming they are going to quit. Changes get made, those people quit anyhow and the game loses the loyal customers it had before due to whiners and wingnuts.

Making changes every time one idiot whines on the forums WILL MAKE YOUR GAME GO BROKE. CCP makes changes due to player demonstrations like burn Jita or massive subscription drops. They don't and should do it due to the complaints of a single person who no longer pays a subscription.

Lets also not forget that half these people that demand changes, try to make the game like the last crappy game they left before they found EVE.


Also, since you want to speak all intelligent like. When it comes to Humans and animals, past performance IS ALWAYS indicative of future behavior. Thats why we study history. People and behaviors rarely change no matter how much they claim otherwise.