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Making money in null sec, a lot harder than people think

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2014-03-16 00:00:03 UTC
You're really, really reaching with that.
Are you trying to be ********? Do you think you win points for pulling the most obscure conclusions out of your ass? You can't actually believe that that statement you took out of context means what you want it to.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#62 - 2014-03-16 00:01:38 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
You're really, really reaching with that.
Are you trying to be ********? Do you think you win points for pulling the most obscure conclusions out of your ass? You can't actually believe that that statement you took out of context means what you want it to.


It was the answer he gave.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2014-03-16 00:03:03 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
He didn't say that new players should go buy a character.
He said that if you want to fly a dreadnought on day one go buy a character.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#64 - 2014-03-16 00:03:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Divine Entervention wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703

Tippia wrote:
Just go buy a character rather than build one of your own.
Oh, you mean a quote where the word “should” doesn't even appear? Yeah, no. I was asking for a quote where where I say that new players should buy new characters rather than develop their own. So you'll have to do better than that.

In fact, let's not be like you and instead quote the post in full:
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Please tell me how a new player can fly a dreadnought day 1. This is something I'm seriously interested in upon having just learned of it's possibility.

Just go buy a character rather than build one of your own.

What you should be interested in is why the list you're trying to create is empty.

So not only is the crucial word “should” missing from your quote — it actually doesn't even tell anyone to do anything. Instead, it provides an explanation how new players can fly a dreadnought on day 1.

So, unsurprisingly, you're lying. Thus the question remains: why are you lying to new players?
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#65 - 2014-03-16 00:08:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Divine Entervention
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703

Tippia wrote:
Just go buy a character rather than build one of your own.
Oh, you mean a quote where the word “should” doesn't even appear? Yeah, no. I was asking for a quote where where I say that new players should buy new characters rather than develop their own. So you'll have to do better than that.

In fact, let's not be like you and instead quote the post in full:
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Please tell me how a new player can fly a dreadnought day 1. This is something I'm seriously interested in upon having just learned of it's possibility.

Just go buy a character rather than build one of your own.

What you should be interested in is why the list you're trying to create is empty.

So not only is the crucial word “should” missing from your quote — it actually doesn't even tell anyone to do anything. Instead, it provides an explanation how new players can fly a dreadnought on day 1.

So, unsurprisingly, you're lying. Thus the question remains: why are you lying to new players?


I'm a new player and I expressed an interest in flying a dreadnought. You told me to buy a new character.

That is you telling a new person to buy a new character.

I'm new. You told me. I'm a new player. You told this new player to buy a new character.

Because that's the answer, I will relay it to others.

O WAIT! it's OK when you do it! but when others do it it's wrong! I get it, thats how you operate.

You're disconnected from the reality of your own actions. The reoccurring theme with you.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#66 - 2014-03-16 00:11:14 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and I expressed an interest in flying a dreadnought. You told me to buy a new character.
Nope.

Quote:
Because that's the answer, I will relay it to others.
If you want to relay your solution to a particular problem to other players, that's fine. Just don't lie about it.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2014-03-16 00:12:56 UTC
Advice given to a new player under very specific circumstances is clearly golden for every other new player.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#68 - 2014-03-16 00:13:22 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and I expressed an interest in flying a dreadnought. You told me to buy a new character.
Nope.

Quote:
Because that's the answer, I will relay it to others.
If you want to relay your solution to a particular problem to other players, that's fine. Just don't lie about it.


yes, I'm a new player and you told me to buy a new character.

and I'm relaying what you told me.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#69 - 2014-03-16 00:14:16 UTC
Honestly if you told me as a new player you wanted to fly a dreadnought my advice would be "learn what that actually means first".

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#70 - 2014-03-16 00:14:19 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
yes, I'm a new player and you told me to buy a new character.
Nope.

Quote:
and I'm relaying what you told me.
Nope.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#71 - 2014-03-16 00:15:04 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and I expressed an interest in flying a dreadnought. You told me to buy a new character.
Nope.

Quote:
Because that's the answer, I will relay it to others.
If you want to relay your solution to a particular problem to other players, that's fine. Just don't lie about it.


yes, I'm a new player and you told me to buy a new character.

and I'm relaying what you told me.


Do you think repeating this will actually make it any less ********?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#72 - 2014-03-16 00:17:44 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and I expressed an interest in flying a dreadnought. You told me to buy a new character.
Nope.

Quote:
Because that's the answer, I will relay it to others.
If you want to relay your solution to a particular problem to other players, that's fine. Just don't lie about it.


yes, I'm a new player and you told me to buy a new character.

and I'm relaying what you told me.


Do you think repeating this will actually make it any less ********?


But it's the truth. Does your saying the truth is false make it any less true?

NOPE
Marsha Mallow
#73 - 2014-03-16 00:17:58 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Thus the question remains: why are you lying to new players?

I'm more concerned about why he's giving advice to new players at all. Stop it DE! If you need a hobby, just carry on talking on the forums.
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and I expressed an interest in flying a dreadnought. You told me to buy a new character.

That is you telling a new person to buy a new character.

I'm new. You told me. I'm a new player. You told this new player to buy a new character.

Tippia won't say it - I will. Yes, if you want a Dread on day one of play and you want to leap over everyone else into a solowtfpwnmobile of doom you should totally buy a new character AND the ship. You should fund it via plexes. I'll buy em. Come back and let us know how you get on. And yes, tell everyone you know to do the same. You should start a blog or something detailing your adventures.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#74 - 2014-03-16 00:20:03 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
But it's the truth. Does your saying the truth is false make it any less true?

NOPE

I will explain it to you again.

He didn't say that new players should go buy a character.
He said that if you want to fly a dreadnought on day one go buy a character.

Do you understand the very clear and obvious distinction?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#75 - 2014-03-16 00:20:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Divine Entervention wrote:
But it's the truth.

Nope.

And that's why you are a liar. The fact that you lie to new players is why you are a griefer. The fact that you are a griefer is why you are a bad person. The fact that you are a bad person is why your pretence of some kind of moral superiority is so gut-bustingly laughable.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#76 - 2014-03-16 00:25:55 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
But it's the truth.

Nope.

And that's why you are a liar. The fact that you lie to new players is why you are a griefer. The fact that you are a griefer is why you are a bad person. The fact that you are a bad person is why your pretence of some kind of moral superiority is so gut-bustingly laughable.


I'm a new player and you told that to me. So if I'm a liar, you are too. Because I'm repeating what you told me.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#77 - 2014-03-16 00:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and you told that to me.
I told you a method of getting into a dread on day 1.

Quote:
So if I'm a liar, you are too. Because I'm repeating what you told me.
No. You are repeating your decision based on the options available to you. It is something completely separate from my explanation of one of those options. You are a liar because you keep attributing your decision to me.

Your being a griefer, a bad person, and generally laughable are just follow-on effects of your incessant and apparently compulsive lying.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#78 - 2014-03-16 00:30:34 UTC
So if you're a new player and I tell you that my name is Josh, does that mean every new player will be talking to someone named Josh?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#79 - 2014-03-16 00:35:22 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

Ooooh, do tell.

Or were you making a humorous reference to making 70M isk from anoms in an ishtar? Because, TBH, I wonder what the income would be for a level 3 null-sec agent.




The most humble raven good sir.

Rapid heavies, micro jump drive, mwd, and a full set of implants and warp speed rigs that will make it go as fast as an assault frigate.
Marsha Mallow
#80 - 2014-03-16 00:36:23 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
I'm a new player and you told that to me. So if I'm a liar, you are too. Because I'm repeating what you told me.

That's right, you're being given bad advice by wicked old vets. You should ignore everything they say and report them for griefing. Don't forget to shout "Liar! Liar! Pants on Fire!" every time Tippia posts. Actually if you could shout it at each other... just once, go on.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day