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Let's give the gankers what they want

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Kyperion
#1 - 2014-03-15 05:38:57 UTC
If the point of EVE is only PVP and all other activities are boring subhuman tasks.... give The Barges Turrets, Missiles, and a dominix drone bay.

Give the Freighters, and industrials a means to shoot back...

Your telling me that in a future where we can go damn near anywhere in the universe the merchant ships wouldn't have more guns than the Spanish Gold fleets?

..... So yeah, if the gankers are all about 'emergent' gameplay .... they should be campaigning to put a full rack of 8 turrets/missiles on every mining barge and freighter, up the mid slots to allow for EWAR... and deployable point defense systems in the belts.... after all, if we can have a mobile depot... why the hell wouldn't we deploy big ass sentry stations?


..... Oh wait, they only want to shoot targets, not hunt prey capable of being predators.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-15 05:42:50 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
If the point of EVE is only PVP and all other activities are boring subhuman tasks.... give The Barges Turrets, Missiles, and a dominix drone bay.

Give the Freighters, and industrials a means to shoot back...

Your telling me that in a future where we can go damn near anywhere in the universe the merchant ships wouldn't have more guns than the Spanish Gold fleets?

..... So yeah, if the gankers are all about 'emergent' gameplay .... they should be campaigning to put a full rack of 8 turrets/missiles on every mining barge and freighter, up the mid slots to allow for EWAR... and deployable point defense systems in the belts.... after all, if we can have a mobile depot... why the hell wouldn't we deploy big ass sentry stations?


..... Oh wait, they only want to shoot targets, not hunt prey capable of being predators.


Are you saying that since gankers justify killing miners and haulers because it's PvP, that the miners and haulers should have guns to make what the gankers claim is "PvP" actually become "PvP"?

Sounds win win. They say they do it for the "PvP", so obviously it's what they want. I think everyone wants it.

Lets make it happen.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#3 - 2014-03-15 05:44:54 UTC
The idea of a "Q-Ship", an armed merchant cruiser designed to look like it's a "helpless" hauler, has always been a dream of mine for EVE.

Fortunately, we're having a turnover in "producers" so maybe some bright spark over there in CCP-land will finally seize on the notion.

Until if and when, "Stay Calm, Get a Frig, and Shoot Back".

Pirate

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-03-15 05:46:51 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
If the point of EVE is only PVP and all other activities are boring subhuman tasks.... give The Barges Turrets, Missiles, and a dominix drone bay.

Give the Freighters, and industrials a means to shoot back...

Your telling me that in a future where we can go damn near anywhere in the universe the merchant ships wouldn't have more guns than the Spanish Gold fleets?

..... So yeah, if the gankers are all about 'emergent' gameplay .... they should be campaigning to put a full rack of 8 turrets/missiles on every mining barge and freighter, up the mid slots to allow for EWAR... and deployable point defense systems in the belts.... after all, if we can have a mobile depot... why the hell wouldn't we deploy big ass sentry stations?


..... Oh wait, they only want to shoot targets, not hunt prey capable of being predators.


You need to take that up with the ORE corporation.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#5 - 2014-03-15 05:51:18 UTC
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Kyperion
#6 - 2014-03-15 05:53:31 UTC
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.


Tell that to the Spanish Galleons of yesteryear. There was a time, when pirates actually had balls.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#7 - 2014-03-15 05:54:46 UTC
I don't gank, I almost never even go to highsec in the first place, but I would love this. The single biggest frustration with lowsec PvP for me are the farmer twits that don't bring the pew.

Of course, to stop a gank you'll have to shoot first, which is definitely the best possible thing that can happen to a ganker; they will still kill you, but with help from Concord. Unless you are talking about eliminating highsec, which of course is 100% win as far as I am concerned.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-03-15 05:55:19 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.


Tell that to the Spanish Galleons of yesteryear. There was a time, when pirates actually had balls.


But challenge is hard
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#9 - 2014-03-15 05:55:20 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.


Tell that to the Spanish Galleons of yesteryear. There was a time, when pirates actually had balls.


So, you're telling me that you need a ridiculously overpowered ship to fight these people... and they're the ones without any balls?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kyperion
#10 - 2014-03-15 05:56:13 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.


Tell that to the Spanish Galleons of yesteryear. There was a time, when pirates actually had balls.


So, you're telling me that you need a ridiculously overpowered ship to fight these people... and they're the ones without any balls?


Because your scared of people shooting back at you?
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-03-15 05:57:13 UTC
inb4 1v1 500mil
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#12 - 2014-03-15 05:58:28 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.


Tell that to the Spanish Galleons of yesteryear. There was a time, when pirates actually had balls.


So, you're telling me that you need a ridiculously overpowered ship to fight these people... and they're the ones without any balls?


Because your scared of people shooting back at you?


My ship already gets blown up during a gank.

Oh, wait, I get it now. You're asking for the removal of CONCORD, gotcha.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-03-15 06:02:33 UTC
I should be able to pay concord to escort me. So incase I'm attacked the response will be immediate.

Money is suppose to be the primary motivator of everyone, so lets have that same principle apply to the NPCs.

Concord letting itself be given financial incentives to place a higher priority on people resulting in faster response times.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#14 - 2014-03-15 06:03:35 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
I should be able to pay concord to escort me. So incase I'm attacked the response will be immediate.

Money is suppose to be the primary motivator of everyone, so lets have that same principle apply to the NPCs.

Concord letting itself be given financial incentives to place a higher priority on people resulting in faster response times.


Sure, if I can pay them to not show up at all. Fair is fair, right?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Miriya Zakalwe
World Wide Welp
#15 - 2014-03-15 06:04:24 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
I should be able to pay concord to escort me. So incase I'm attacked the response will be immediate.

Money is suppose to be the primary motivator of everyone, so lets have that same principle apply to the NPCs.

Concord letting itself be given financial incentives to place a higher priority on people resulting in faster response times.


Why? You don't even fit your ships.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-03-15 06:05:23 UTC
Miriya Zakalwe wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
I should be able to pay concord to escort me. So incase I'm attacked the response will be immediate.

Money is suppose to be the primary motivator of everyone, so lets have that same principle apply to the NPCs.

Concord letting itself be given financial incentives to place a higher priority on people resulting in faster response times.


Why? You don't even fit your ships.


Ships cost money regardless of fittings.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2014-03-15 06:05:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Kyperion wrote:
If the point of EVE is only PVP and all other activities are boring subhuman tasks.... give The Barges Turrets, Missiles, and a dominix drone bay.
PvP ≠ combat.

Divine Entervention wrote:
I should be able to pay concord to escort me. So incase I'm attacked the response will be immediate.

Money is suppose to be the primary motivator of everyone, so lets have that same principle apply to the NPCs.
What you're asking for already exists.
Kyperion
#18 - 2014-03-15 06:05:49 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:
Don Purple wrote:
They are prey, a creature that is hunted and killed by another for food, or in this case tasty tears.


Tell that to the Spanish Galleons of yesteryear. There was a time, when pirates actually had balls.


So, you're telling me that you need a ridiculously overpowered ship to fight these people... and they're the ones without any balls?


Because your scared of people shooting back at you?


My ship already gets blown up during a gank.

Oh, wait, I get it now. You're asking for the removal of CONCORD, gotcha.


If I could hunt characters with a reputation as Gankers down freely in highsec I would be willing to give up a lot of the effectiveness of concord... because really, the gankers just game that system anyway.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-03-15 06:06:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Divine Entervention wrote:
I should be able to pay concord to escort me. So incase I'm attacked the response will be immediate.

Money is suppose to be the primary motivator of everyone, so lets have that same principle apply to the NPCs.

Concord letting itself be given financial incentives to place a higher priority on people resulting in faster response times.


Sure, if I can pay them to not show up at all. Fair is fair, right?


If I can pay more for them to show up. Sure. It sounds fun.
Mara Denais
Mara Denais Tax Evasion
#20 - 2014-03-15 06:06:42 UTC
Battle badgers
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