EVE New Citizens Q&A

It seems like, maybe, this has actually happened -- a few alliances own massive amounts of space. But I'm just wondering what the general philosophy is behind this from the perspectives of CCP and players. It seems like CCP wouldn't really want this to happen anymore than smaller/independent corporations.

Posting in a fail attempt of an "Argh CFC took my space" thread.


Basically:

CCP doesn't care...it's the entire idea of their sandbox idea where they do NOT intervene in player created content, unless it's using exploits or it's EULA breaking.

Players don't give a ****. People who own space and can defend it, deserve the space. If you can't defend it, then you get kicked out.

The problem becomes, how easy it is to hold it unless attacked by one of the other 2 or 3 mega-coalitions. because a new guy cant put up a POS, shoot at a structure, or much of anything without the entirety of the owning alliance knowing about it and forming up a fleet of 50x their number to destroy them within an afternoon from a galaxy away. And getting "more firends" isnt very viable since a vast majority of the people you COULD recruit are already out there, or would rather join someone who already holds the space. and joining one of the already existing mega alliances doesnt solve the issue, it exasperates it.

HERO is an exception, and even they are having issues with holding SOV.

tl;dr holding vast amounts of SOV is not the problem, holding vast amounts of sov youll never visist save to refuel your moon-goo towers or kill anyone trying to live there IS. there should be incentives to NOT have your empire spread out over more territory than your willing to live in and actively patrol (a nerf to power projection and system/structure notifications would go a long way to helping the little guy). renters are an entirely different issue that just stems from too many carebears thinking they have a right to live in null and ***** when they dont get perfect safety from scary cloakers.

@ Nariya Kentaya I can certainly see where you're coming from in your post. I'm not a nullsec resident, and never have been, the closest experience I've had to nullsec is living in wormholes for 18 months so I'm not in any position to specifically discuss sov or the problems with it. I can only generalise using the bits and bobs I've picked up from people who do actually live there.

Remove "in null" and swap scary cloakers for gankers, you just described highsec.

The impact you speak of is feeble at best. The amount of goo that is syphoned before the unit is destroyed is minimal in most cases. This may have set-back production a whopping 0 whole minutes. It is a neat deployable and can be used effectively in certain cases however, dropping one on every goo pos that you find will result in lots of spensive losses. Just sayin'...

Back when Goons and TEST were allies, they controlled an enormous amount of space together. They had a falling out, and ended up at war with each other. Now Goons have won that war, but nearly a year after they aren't as strong as the combined Goons/TEST forces were before it.

If one alliance seized everything, the game (or at least, sovereign nullsec) would indeed get boring. But before that happens, there'd be fractures in their alliance, or other entities would band together against them.

Goons are not yet close to Band of Brothers' former strength, and BOB fell.

Please take this crap and yourself back to GD.

There is absolutely nothing stopping big coalitions from steamrolling. We're doing it and the CFC is doing it. RUS did it with help from the CFC too, but they're kinda in trouble atm.

From a "vets" perspective I weep for nullsec. I truly believed the end of BoB was the best thing that happened to EVE.

But in all honesty; IF one group were to be dominant, it wont last. Guys like me aren't going to sit in a station all day celebrating succes. Somewhere, somebody has to be shot and destroyed. If there's no CFC or RUS to kill, there's going to be infighting.

Despite the massive influx of carebear renters, most nullsec players are still out here to shoot at stuff and PvP in fleets.

I was wondering about this. Sovereignty obviously works out best when you are present in the area it is being attacked. But I'm curious about not only how a smaller organization can take territory from a larger entity (as when it is embroiled elsewhere like you suggested), but I'm also wonder why a larger organization can't just take any territory it wants from a smaller organization. Is this due to the stength of the POS or... can the larger organization simply crush a smaller organization if they are so inclined?