EVE General Discussion

This is quite possibly the stupidest post in the history of these forums.

I'm going to nitpick here, Godwins law refers to a variant of fascism, the variant it refers to was quite racist in outlook and dictated that all but the master race should be either subservient or eliminated. For an Eve comparison think of the Amarr Empire Lore and its attitude towards the Minmatar.

Fascism itself revolves around the state, and the aggrandisement of the state through jingoism, it's also a good deal less racist than it's unmentionable variant. A reasonable Eve comparison would be the Caldari state, simply because corporatism is a form of fascism.

If you're going to bring up Godwins Law and Fascism in the same post, please make sure you know the difference between the abomination Godwins Law refers to and fascism itself.

The remark about her being "facist" was made before she interjected "Godwin's Law". You have to keep the order straight. In the context of the conversation, she was clearly stating that Godwin's law was proven correct, why she linked it.

It's really unfair of you to then flip the context into the opposite direction and state that because she called out some one else's injecting facism as really her own.

I'm can read so I'm well aware of that, thanks. She/he still used Godwins law to incorrectly refer to fascism in general, when in fact Godwins Law specifically covers a racist and abhorrent variation of fascism that can't be named on these forums, just as its leader with the funny 'tache who couldn't paint can't be named on these forums.

Godwins law wasn't proven prior to La Rynxs post, social fascism is not the same as the variant of fascism practiced in Germany in the lead up to and during WW2, as such their linking of it and making the comparison did in fact cause it to be validated.

Having lived in Germany for the best part of my youth, and having held dual German/UK nationality for many years, yes I was aware of that, if you're referring to the Grundgesetz für die Bundesrepublik Deutschland I am also aware that prior to 1949 that document didn't exist.

Aha! A free tears fountain! haven't seen those in a while.

Well, lets poke it shall we...

Ahem.

I enjoy scamming carebears out of their (afk) hard-earned isk and then making them scream in anger, because the game allows it and I like to see carebears cry.

And you can't change anything about it, which is also something I enjoy seeing.


And if you think you can change it, then I'll enjoy seeing you fail miserably.

I'm not sure I understand what you are getting at...

People are scamed in eve because they are stupid. Plain and simple. If you get scammed you are stupid. And here is a bit of knowledge.. EVERYONE IS STUPID.

"But i'm not!" no, you are stupid. There is a time, at least once, in everyons adult life they do something stupid. It either kills you, or you go 'oh.. yea that was stupid, lets not do that again' The same thing happens in eve. Scammers play on the fact that, everyone is stupid. If they say the right thing, or you are not paying attention, then you get scammed. It can be as simple as you mistyping a few 0's and selling 60m isk of stuff for 60k.

Now then, this is allowed in eve because, well, it doesn't really hurt or screw with anything, and honestly people would just move the scams out of game.

As for the gripes about the out fo game stuff, as had been said before... you can always say no and log off. But if someone goes "sing this song and i'll give you a billion isk" your greed kicks in and you sing the stupid song.


I don't get the recent influx of these topics. EvE is as close to the real world as you can get. People will exploit you, abuse you, steal from you, and kill you, at the drop of the hat. Most don't because they are scared of the consaquences. Even nice guys want to punch people in the face, but don't. In the game, there is no big brother telling you not to do that. Its one of the things that nake eve unique, it also means you need to grow some thicker skin, learn to say no and log the hades off. If things cross the line between stupid game garbage to harassment, there are ways to deal with that, both irl, and in eve. CCP needs not police people being STUPID. I often hear people in the US complain about lables on food or thigns they think are so dumb. But thouse things are there because... PEOPLE ARE STUPID. And some point in time, be it the collective society, or a politican with a grudge, forced a law to be passed to reduce the amount of people doing something stupid.

Seriously... point of this thread and another makes no sense. Asking 'why are people so mean in eve' is... STUPID. Because no matter what someone tells you, you will not like the answer. Just like saying 'well ccp should fix this' makes you look stupid to others who have no issue with scamming and people being dicks. And I rambled.. my point... after 10 years of playing this game, I have not meet a community that can one day help you out, and the next stab you in the back and laugh at you, only to shake your hand and share a beer with you in person. Its Awesome. CCP needs not change anything, you and others just need to stop being stupid. But as everyone is human.. that's impossible.

The Alliance panel, TM crossed the line, he was beign stupid. He paid for crossing the line. I had zero issues with him when I met him in vegas, I was on his team for EvE online: Corruption. Its not ccp's job to tell you that this isk doubling is a scam. The players should know better. And even if ccp cracked down on this, people would just change what they were doing. But then even would not be the game we love. So if you honestly don't know how to say no, have no idea where the white x is, or dunno how to press alt +f4 then eve is not the game for you. Grow some skin, stop whining, and stop being stupid.

I dunno why people stopped using block and ignore features and whine when they get bullyed anywhere online. Never made since to me. Press red x, right click and block, or go do something else. sheesh

This has been your bitter vet rambling for the day.

It is a game for sure. If you wind up getting scammed, then all it means is that you lost that round. GG well played. The thing about EVE is that you will never hit rock bottom, because it is a game. You can lose everything but the one thing you will never be able to lose is that humble noob ship you started out with. You got that far starting with just a noob ship before, and you can do it again. Unless you got screwed over on an unprecedented level (like losing your character and all of the skill points with it) then it should be easier the second time around.

Got scammed out of your first 10 billion isk? No biggie! Sure it sucks, but chances are that now that you know what you're doing, you can make 20 billion isk in the same same time it took you to make 10 billion isk.

I wouldn't even say you actually lost something getting duped like that. Learning a lesson that can be valuable even in real life (don't be so gullible and trustworthy of strangers) is worth all the fictional money and even time in the world.

Which means it's perfectly acceptable to apply real world morality and ethics to people's choices in game.

If you do bad things in EvE, you're a bad person.

You're part of a pvp corporation. That means you enjoy hunting down and killing other players. By your logic you are a murderer in real life.

I'm calling the cops, you homicidal maniac.