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New Order Mining Permits Now Worthless?

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#101 - 2014-03-19 05:51:35 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Maybe at the time of transportation.

Yep and not wanting to take the topic too far off track, my post was more a bit of humor than anything else (I'm descended from 2 first fleet convicts, so have no problem with the history of our country. Even though they were both English, I still consider them Australian, just like most do).
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#102 - 2014-03-19 05:55:55 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Maybe at the time of transportation.

Yep and not wanting to take the topic too far off track, my post was more a bit of humor than anything else (I'm descended from 2 first fleet convicts, so have no problem with the history of our country. Even though they were both English, I still consider them Australian, just like most do).



And here i thought that it was the responsibility od any MD poster to at least derail one thread a week...you convict!! Luckily my english heritage arrived on a boat in the 50's
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#103 - 2014-03-19 06:09:04 UTC
Ka'Narlist wrote:
Michael Ruckert wrote:
Does anyone know if this is a corp? Anyone seen a mining ship with a New Order permit taken out? Or is this just a propaganda war?

You've got to be kidding me.
Seriously how miserable can one be while playing a game?


wow, test still exists?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#104 - 2014-03-19 06:09:30 UTC
So, this thread has taken a turn where I feel obliged to start talking about dingos, Fosters, and crocodiles.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#105 - 2014-03-19 06:10:34 UTC
The game is designed to allow people to play it afk. SKill points, capturing faction warfare plexes, mining, industry, and auto pilot.

Some people want others to play the game how you see fit because they feel it's more fun that way. But they're not everyone, and they don't get to make those choices for others. CCP could, but they don't because they made EvE a certain way, a way that people get to choose how they want to play.

All that they could do is attempt to influence others. It may work, it may not. Either way, it exists and is sanctioned by CCP.

Show me a link where CCP stated a player may not be alt tabbed while mining. Mining while playing starcraft, league, banished, gw2, watching netflix. It's nice having the ability to log into EvE and make progress on your character while doing something else more enjoyable.
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#106 - 2014-03-19 06:12:49 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, this thread has taken a turn where I feel obliged to start talking about dingos, Fosters, and crocodiles.



Yes Fosters was our first step in our plans to take over the world.

Next it will be Vegemite...you have been warned!! Evil
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#107 - 2014-03-19 06:13:58 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Dr0000 Maulerant wrote:


Unless you are being ganked regularly, efficiency mods win out EVERY time. A tank will cost you from two to ten million ISK every hour.

You fail to account for the invaluable ganker tears over the fact you actually survived in your profit calculations however.
Also Op, New Order permits were never worth anything. They were a pure scam from day 1. Though their main scam is actually their donation drive to get free money off other people not involved.


Thats not a scam. People know exactly what they are buying shares for.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#108 - 2014-03-19 06:22:43 UTC
Arancar Australis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, this thread has taken a turn where I feel obliged to start talking about dingos, Fosters, and crocodiles.



Yes Fosters was our first step in our plans to take over the world.

Next it will be Vegemite...you have been warned!! Evil


In all of my long life, I still haven't figured out what Vegemite is. I did manage to get me one of those hats, what are they called, drungo? Idk, the guy I bought it from and I barely spoke the same language enough to agree on a price(and we were both theoretically speaking English is the funny part), "drungo" might have been his name for all I know.

Goes great with my brown leather duster, though.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#109 - 2014-03-19 06:30:21 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In all of my long life, I still haven't figured out what Vegemite is.

That's simple. In the old days there was no use for the yeast resulting from the breweries. It had to be carted off and discarded in landfill.

Someone found out that if you squeezed it really hard you could extract all the bits of the yeast like squeezing a bunch of worms.

That's vegemite and all Aussie kids grow up on it. Great stuff.
Iudicium Vastus
Doomheim
#110 - 2014-03-19 06:39:58 UTC
I do get a good laugh when these code people are referred to as content creators.

It's like calling the rich job creators.

[u]Nerf stabs/cloaks in FW?[/u] No, just.. -Fit more points -Fit faction points -Bring a friend or two with points (an alt is fine too)
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#111 - 2014-03-19 06:40:22 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, from what I can tell then, my answers are: "Grr, roleplaying" and "miners can't keep the game in the game".
Sure, if you're going to blanket label every miner in game, but I really doubt all the players who mine would bother to seek you out for insult.


I don't blanket label every miner in the game.

Just the ones whom I bump 30km away and they just sit there for half an hour until they tab back into the game. Those ones aren't "players who mine", because the word "player" implies that they are playing the game.

So yeah, those ones get a label. It's called "bot-aspirant".

So does a pure manufacturer not play the game?


I think we are getting Side tracked a bit. Manufacturing requires a fair bit of active gameplay. You have to set up a pos, buy and ship minerals, buy BPOs and most importantly, figure out whats profitable to manufacture. You can't automate most this and any bot that was set up to manufacture would fail horribly as industry requires complex decision making.

By contrast, a bot aspirant miners tries to automate his actions as much as he possibly can. There is no complex decision making, so players try to pay as little attention as possible to what they are doing.
Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#112 - 2014-03-19 06:48:28 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Arancar Australis wrote:
Buy a permit you say...you do know that us Aussies are stubborn and laugh in the face of supposed authority, right? P


Cheers,

AA



I'm an Aussie, and I accept James' authority over highsec.

it's ok. Some people just NEED to follow somebody. You know: the world is complex and harsh. You NEED somebody to give you orders and be your leader.

By becoming stronger you will be able to choose your own way.


What planet do you live on? Because almost everybody on Earth has a leader. Nobody is completely above the law. At best, they can choose which group to follow.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#113 - 2014-03-19 06:55:12 UTC
Iudicium Vastus wrote:
It's like calling the rich job creators.
This is generally a true statement, even if they begin growing a business before they are rich.

Not all the rich are job creators, but a high percentage of job creators are well off. There are also a lot of small business owners that aren't rich and who also create many jobs. That however doesn't take away from the role the rich play in creating employment opportunities through businesses.
Josef Djugashvilis
#114 - 2014-03-19 07:29:19 UTC
Michael Ruckert wrote:
As I was flying in the Everyshore region, I ran across this message posted in small secure containers at two jump gates.

ATTENTION CODE permit holding miners are now subject to bumps and ganks DO NOT buy permits.

Looks like someone has created a NEW New Order with the message that mining permits are worthless.



Your post makes the erroneous assumption that the permits were ever worth having.

This is not a signature.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2014-03-19 07:36:08 UTC
Tear Jar wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Arancar Australis wrote:
Buy a permit you say...you do know that us Aussies are stubborn and laugh in the face of supposed authority, right? P


Cheers,

AA



I'm an Aussie, and I accept James' authority over highsec.

it's ok. Some people just NEED to follow somebody. You know: the world is complex and harsh. You NEED somebody to give you orders and be your leader.

By becoming stronger you will be able to choose your own way.


What planet do you live on? Because almost everybody on Earth has a leader. Nobody is completely above the law. At best, they can choose which group to follow.

on the Earth you have no choice, i agree

in Eve Online you have the choice. That's why i speak about NEED to be leaded and ordered.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#116 - 2014-03-19 08:29:14 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Arancar Australis wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, this thread has taken a turn where I feel obliged to start talking about dingos, Fosters, and crocodiles.



Yes Fosters was our first step in our plans to take over the world.

Next it will be Vegemite...you have been warned!! Evil


In all of my long life, I still haven't figured out what Vegemite is. I did manage to get me one of those hats, what are they called, drungo? Idk, the guy I bought it from and I barely spoke the same language enough to agree on a price(and we were both theoretically speaking English is the funny part), "drungo" might have been his name for all I know.

Goes great with my brown leather duster, though.


Hmm i am thinking probably an Akubra hat which is standard
Buck Futz
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#117 - 2014-03-19 08:34:29 UTC
Thread is bad and the OP should feel bad.
Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
#118 - 2014-03-19 08:34:42 UTC
Tear Jar wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So, from what I can tell then, my answers are: "Grr, roleplaying" and "miners can't keep the game in the game".
Sure, if you're going to blanket label every miner in game, but I really doubt all the players who mine would bother to seek you out for insult.


I don't blanket label every miner in the game.

Just the ones whom I bump 30km away and they just sit there for half an hour until they tab back into the game. Those ones aren't "players who mine", because the word "player" implies that they are playing the game.

So yeah, those ones get a label. It's called "bot-aspirant".

So does a pure manufacturer not play the game?


I think we are getting Side tracked a bit. Manufacturing requires a fair bit of active gameplay. You have to set up a pos, buy and ship minerals, buy BPOs and most importantly, figure out whats profitable to manufacture. You can't automate most this and any bot that was set up to manufacture would fail horribly as industry requires complex decision making.

By contrast, a bot aspirant miners tries to automate his actions as much as he possibly can. There is no complex decision making, so players try to pay as little attention as possible to what they are doing.


Funny how you leave out PI set ups which can be set and left for days on end and only require a push to start and a push to collect.

So when will the bumping of PI bot aspirants start? Roll
Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#119 - 2014-03-19 08:38:34 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
We are the good guys. We are here to help.

And if you believe that then I have a bridge that you might want to look at.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#120 - 2014-03-19 08:42:01 UTC
Jaxon Grylls wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
We are the good guys. We are here to help.

And if you believe that then I have a bridge that you might want to look at.


Cov ops bridge, or regular?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.