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How much of a sec status hit do you take to suicide gank someone?

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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#21 - 2014-03-16 15:55:14 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Getting tired of ninja looters who know you wont shoot back lol

Im kinda thinking I wanna kill one in a suicide destroyer. My status is 5.0 atm, Im in a .9 system, how much status drop does it incur and will I still be cool in the .9 system? Obviously Ive never done it before


Are you talking about ninja salvagers ie people salvaging your wrecks to get the broken salvage items used to make rigs or people actually stealing cargo from your NPC wrecks?

I don't have much experience of this but I would have thought ninja salvagers would be far more common than people stealing cargo from your wrecks which entails 'suspect' status which allows you to pod them legally. If they steal your cargo it will either be an idiot who doesn't know they can be podded or more likely a trap for you to fall into.

If you want to be sure to see the flashy yellow for suspect status in your overview you have to change your overview settings to have yellow flashy at the top of the list. 'Drag and drop' is the way to do it. Otherwise other settings can cover the yellow flashy if they are above them in the listing.

If you were considering suicide ganking them there are many variables to take into consideration such as resistances. Ganking in a 0.9 system would be a complete no-no though due to the lessened CONCORD response times. You would need to attack them in a 0.5 or 0.6 system and would need to ship scan them first with a passive targeter so they don't know you are checking them.

On balance I would say it is probably best for you take the loot loss rather than pursuing them. Best to relocate to another system for you missions than getting your pimped mission ship blown up. Smile
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#22 - 2014-03-18 23:23:32 UTC
Illegally aggressing a player ship will drop your sec status to about +4.80 or so from +5.00. The higher your sec status the more it drops (as you are moved a percentage of the way from your current sec to negative 10).

Illegally aggressing a player capsule will drop you from +4.80 to about +2.70. It's a much, much bigger drop.


You will incur transferrable killrights for either action. KRs are pretty nasty if the person owning them knows how to use them. 90% of people do not have a clue and you only lose a rookie ship to the KR, but I would assume a mission ninja is in the 10% that know what to do with them.

As for pulling off a gank - use a ship fitted for alpha in 0.9. You will need quite a lot of alpha to kill anything, too.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#23 - 2014-03-19 05:54:18 UTC
Bethan Le Troix wrote:


On balance I would say it is probably best for you take the loot loss rather than pursuing them. Best to relocate to another system for you missions than getting your pimped mission ship blown up. Smile


Wasnt planning on attacking them in my missioning ship; and if I DID gank them, Id either do it on an alt like this guy, who Ive had for years and never use or take time off for a day or till the kill rights expire. Not gonna gank him then go right back to missioning lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Tear Jar
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#24 - 2014-03-20 02:58:40 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Getting tired of ninja looters who know you wont shoot back lol

Im kinda thinking I wanna kill one in a suicide destroyer. My status is 5.0 atm, Im in a .9 system, how much status drop does it incur and will I still be cool in the .9 system? Obviously Ive never done it before


You lose .5% for kill a ship and 5% for killing a pod. You can blow up a lot of ships. The main issue is the kill right they get on you.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#25 - 2014-03-21 01:56:33 UTC
Tear Jar wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Getting tired of ninja looters who know you wont shoot back lol

Im kinda thinking I wanna kill one in a suicide destroyer. My status is 5.0 atm, Im in a .9 system, how much status drop does it incur and will I still be cool in the .9 system? Obviously Ive never done it before


You lose .5% for kill a ship and 5% for killing a pod. You can blow up a lot of ships. The main issue is the kill right they get on you.


It lasts 24 hours right?

I can plan on an alt for 24 hours, or go play MWO for ... well thats MAYBE an hour... go do some leatherworking then lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#26 - 2014-03-21 03:22:09 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Tear Jar wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Getting tired of ninja looters who know you wont shoot back lol

Im kinda thinking I wanna kill one in a suicide destroyer. My status is 5.0 atm, Im in a .9 system, how much status drop does it incur and will I still be cool in the .9 system? Obviously Ive never done it before


You lose .5% for kill a ship and 5% for killing a pod. You can blow up a lot of ships. The main issue is the kill right they get on you.


It lasts 24 hours right?

I can plan on an alt for 24 hours, or go play MWO for ... well thats MAYBE an hour... go do some leatherworking then lol



KRs last 30 days.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#27 - 2014-03-21 05:21:40 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Tear Jar wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Getting tired of ninja looters who know you wont shoot back lol

Im kinda thinking I wanna kill one in a suicide destroyer. My status is 5.0 atm, Im in a .9 system, how much status drop does it incur and will I still be cool in the .9 system? Obviously Ive never done it before


You lose .5% for kill a ship and 5% for killing a pod. You can blow up a lot of ships. The main issue is the kill right they get on you.


It lasts 24 hours right?

I can plan on an alt for 24 hours, or go play MWO for ... well thats MAYBE an hour... go do some leatherworking then lol



KRs last 30 days.


Oh then Id definately do it on an alt lol

I have several that I never log in on

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

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