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9362 lives saved from death by one man
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Manwe Todako
Disciples of Ston
#1 - 2011-11-12 17:28:59 UTC
What can one man do in a universe of violence and selfishness? What can one man do, in a place where peace seems impossible? One man can do plenty.

The Disciples of Ston thought it worthy of its own thread to publicly thank and recognize one man who so far has saved 9362 live from certain death in the cold of space. This man is Pilot Gaufres

9362 people would be dead if it were not for the simple unselfishness of this one person. When these people were handed over to our care, they were well fed and healthy. They were given the choice of the next step in their lives. This is where peace and freedom begins; with simple brave acts of selflessness that saves and dignifies life.

We also appeal to the Gallentean government to recognize his acts of courage and service and in response, expunge his record and welcome him back into Federation space.

SANKOFA
Lairne Tekitsu
DadTZ
#2 - 2011-11-13 20:04:55 UTC
Yes, but what did he do?

I'm not gonna praise this guy until I get some details.
Mekhana
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-11-14 12:42:52 UTC
Kill nine thousand to spare five hundred.

Kill one million now in order to not need to kill one billion later.

Or just kill a thousand for no apparent reason.

It's all the same. Welcome to the life of a capsuleer.

Vide longe er eros di Luminaire VII, uni canse pra krage e determiniex! Sange por Sange! Descanse bravex eros, mie freires. Mortir por vostre Liberete, farmilie, ide e amis. lons Proviste sen mort! Luminaire liber mas! 
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#4 - 2011-11-14 19:48:24 UTC
Let's just ask and see what he says. Gaufres, is your rescue of 9000+ souls redemption enough to expunge past offenses against the Federation?

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-11-15 10:17:34 UTC
I don't understand. Why did you leave out the most important part? How did he save those "pool souls?"

Are you referring to his vast collection of prostitutes and exotic dancers that he has been accumulating for the past half a year?
Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2011-11-15 13:39:13 UTC
The Antiquarian wrote:
I don't understand. Why did you leave out the most important part? How did he save those "pool souls?"

Are you referring to his vast collection of prostitutes and exotic dancers that he has been accumulating for the past half a year?


How many servants has he retained for his own exclusive use? Is this just his way of getting rid of the old, sick and crippled? Give them to the disciples to care for and then he doesn't have to care for them....

High Lord Ran'Shad CEO Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment Elemental Tide Alliance
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#7 - 2011-11-15 14:35:33 UTC
Rescued from Jet Cans.

But of course you all already knew this.

Your questions have nothing to do with another man's character, but rather your own depravity of character and your desire to continue to justify cruel slavery.

You malign others' good deeds to feel better about your own depravity.

Over 9000 people who were once slaves in Amarr would have perished if Gaufres would not have rescued them after they had been dumped in space to die. Now they have a chance for life and to make a life of their own in communities of their choice.

Do you fear the voices of 9000 more former slaves testifying against the oppression committed against them. Ask these 9000 how they feel about the man who rescued them.




The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#8 - 2011-11-15 14:50:11 UTC
Ston Momaki wrote:
Do you fear the voices of 9000
If you live your life in continued denial about the deeds of you and your own, you fear the voice of a single man that reminds you and wish nothing more than to silence him for being wrong.

What do you think the voices of 9000 will do? Or those of millions?
Rytha Main
Defensores Fidei
#9 - 2011-11-15 17:13:56 UTC
If slavery lead to the salvation of even ONE man's soul, then it would be worth it to enslave all of New Eden.

It is folly to downplay the sheer gravity of one attaining communion with the divine. Cruelty in slavery? If it leads to genuine conversions, then it is simply a testing and strengthening of a man's mind, body and soul. If a holder's slavery does not lead to conversions, then let it be known that he is not above the judgement of his fellow brethren, and the judgement of God.
Rytha Main
Defensores Fidei
#10 - 2011-11-15 17:14:14 UTC
If slavery lead to the salvation of even ONE man's soul, then it would be worth it to enslave all of New Eden.

It is folly to downplay the sheer gravity of one attaining communion with the divine. Cruelty in slavery? If it leads to genuine conversions, then it is simply a testing and strengthening of a man's mind, body and soul. If a holder's slavery does not lead to conversions, then let it be known that he is not above the judgement of his fellow brethren, and the judgement of God.
Rytha Main
Defensores Fidei
#11 - 2011-11-15 17:14:19 UTC
If slavery lead to the salvation of even ONE man's soul, then it would be worth it to enslave all of New Eden.

It is folly to downplay the sheer gravity of one attaining communion with the divine. Cruelty in slavery? If it leads to genuine conversions, then it is simply a testing and strengthening of a man's mind, body and soul. If a holder's slavery does not lead to conversions, then let it be known that he is not above the judgement of his fellow brethren, and the judgement of God.
Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-11-15 17:36:46 UTC
Rytha Main wrote:
If slavery lead to the salvation of even ONE man's soul, then it would be worth it to enslave all of New Eden.

It is folly to downplay the sheer gravity of one attaining communion with the divine. Cruelty in slavery? If it leads to genuine conversions, then it is simply a testing and strengthening of a man's mind, body and soul. If a holder's slavery does not lead to conversions, then let it be known that he is not above the judgement of his fellow brethren, and the judgement of God.



Amen. Truer words have never been spoken.

High Lord Ran'Shad CEO Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment Elemental Tide Alliance
TomHorn
Horn Brothers Holdings Inc.
#13 - 2011-11-15 22:17:09 UTC
Quote:
#1 Posted: 2011.11.12 17:28 What can one man do in a universe of violence and selfishness? What can one man do, in a place where peace seems impossible? One man can do plenty.

The Disciples of Ston thought it worthy of its own thread to publicly thank and recognize one man who so far has saved 9362 live from certain death in the cold of space. This man is Pilot Gaufres

9362 people would be dead if it were not for the simple unselfishness of this one person. When these people were handed over to our care, they were well fed and healthy. They were given the choice of the next step in their lives. This is where peace and freedom begins; with simple brave acts of selflessness that saves and dignifies life.

We also appeal to the Gallentean government to recognize his acts of courage and service and in response, expunge his record and welcome him back into Federation space.


When you risk your life to save life , then that is a life worth living
Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
#14 - 2011-11-16 14:19:48 UTC
TomHorn wrote:
Quote:
#1 Posted: 2011.11.12 17:28 What can one man do in a universe of violence and selfishness? What can one man do, in a place where peace seems impossible? One man can do plenty.

The Disciples of Ston thought it worthy of its own thread to publicly thank and recognize one man who so far has saved 9362 live from certain death in the cold of space. This man is Pilot Gaufres

9362 people would be dead if it were not for the simple unselfishness of this one person. When these people were handed over to our care, they were well fed and healthy. They were given the choice of the next step in their lives. This is where peace and freedom begins; with simple brave acts of selflessness that saves and dignifies life.

We also appeal to the Gallentean government to recognize his acts of courage and service and in response, expunge his record and welcome him back into Federation space.


When you risk your life to save life , then that is a life worth living


TomHorn, you also are a man who has rescued those in danger. One or One Thousand, it doesn't matter. You are right that the risks in saving lives are worth it. The Disciples appreciate your continued rescue work as well.

The Disciples of Ston bid you peace
Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
#15 - 2011-11-18 02:24:03 UTC
It appears that my acts have hit a real nerve with some Amarrian Holders and the Amarrian Slavers. They do not seem to understand how anyone could do what I do and refuse all the ISK that selling the rescued slaves represents. It is a simple matter of ethics and compassion. Both I and my crews would have it no other way and consider the risk of some of the rescues under hostile guns worth the risk.

As to the slanderous statements about my keeping Exotic Dancers safe from abuse by their former owners, it is true I have managed to rescue over 600k from slavery or worse. I do not exploit these ladies nor do I make any ISK from them. If they desire to continue their trade, they do so by their own choice and keep all the ISK made. I have seen to the education of all those who have decided to chose another path. I have hired quite a number who wanted to become crew. I have also found that they seem to have a special way with Drones and I have lost almost none since some have become Drone Techs.
Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
#16 - 2011-11-18 02:25:01 UTC
I have several Amarrian Corp friends who understand what I am doing and assist me in my efforts. They do this even though they do not really understand why I refuse to sell them in Jita to buy some of the expensive ships I would like to have. I would never want to own a ship purchased in such a manner. When they saw the report of my transfer of the former slaves to the Ston Organization, they were completely taken aback. One, that I had rescued so many, and Two, that I had given away what they considered a considerable sum. It seems I need to keep up my efforts to convince them of the wrongness of slavery.

As for my extremely poor standing with my own people, I had to leave my home space because none of the Mining Corp wanted a fresh pilot with little experience. I went to Amarrian Space, because I could make a good, honest living and make a difference where it was needed. While working for the Amarr, I was sometimes confronted by Gallente Forces deep in Amarr Space. I always gave them a chance to leave so I could report that they were gone and everyone would be safe and alive. Each time, they chose to open fire and I had to defend myself. I much rather would have had them just leave and return a few days later. It was never to be. So, I am now not able to return home. So be it. Certainly no other Gallente has helped free as many people as I have. I say the proof of ones beliefs is in the doing. The Gallente State just gives lip service to being against the slave trade and does not honor those who really try to make a difference.
Lucius Vindictus
Arachnos
#17 - 2011-11-18 04:17:10 UTC
Capsuleer economics lesson 101:

This man purchases slaves far below their average market value. There is a reason he does this. Does anyone want to guess why?

Who-ever gives me the right answer wins a special prize!
Ran'shad
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-11-18 13:15:22 UTC
Lucius Vindictus wrote:
Capsuleer economics lesson 101:

This man purchases slaves far below their average market value. There is a reason he does this. Does anyone want to guess why?

Who-ever gives me the right answer wins a special prize!



The only reason to purchase anything at below market price is so that you can sell it at market price and make profit. Clearly this man is a slaver and his 'resuce' is his way of getting rid of the dead weight (cripples, elederly, etc...) AND making himself look good in the process. No doubt a sizeable 'donation' was made to the Ston for the special announcement.

High Lord Ran'Shad CEO Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment Elemental Tide Alliance
Arkady Sadik
Gradient
Electus Matari
#19 - 2011-11-18 13:46:57 UTC
I know quite a few people who have market orders up for people at below market price and regularly bring them to our freedom program.

Sounds like this is an inconceivable idea only to a very specific subculture here.
Lucius Vindictus
Arachnos
#20 - 2011-11-18 15:07:32 UTC
Arkady Sadik wrote:
I know quite a few people who have market orders up for people at below market price and regularly bring them to our freedom program.

Sounds like this is an inconceivable idea only to a very specific subculture here.


Oh... I see it now. Me and my specific subculture have it all backwards, and should listen to the main stream! Quite a few people agree: Slavery is clearly best abolished by trading in slaves.
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