Warfare & Tactics

Ok, most people who know me think of me as a fairly easy going sort of chap.

But, a little tiny bit of drama last night always adds to the fun of this game.

After a small ish Gallente fleet had a little mooch last we engage a small Kronos gang and kill one of them.

Now, you would expect some reasonable loot to drop from this (it was ok ish).

What you don't expect is for someone to steal all the decent loot, drop fleet, drop comms and then bugger off back to there home system thinking they have pulled a fast one with a few hundred mil or so in loot (loot history is your friend).

A gentleman by the name of Thorr VonAsgard from TIPIAKS seems to think that this is acceptable behaviour to join a fleet, enjoy an FC providing content to his gameplay and then procede to attempt to steal loot.

Now, Dopified very kindly jumped onto TIPIAKS comms and politely asked for it to be handed back and was met with some abuse and lies thrown his direction.

After some going back and forth TIPIAKS gave our FC the loot value in isk as to what was stolen, but to me that kinda isn't the point.

Stealing from people you fly with to line your own pockets isn't the kind of person I want to be in fleet with, or be in my fleet and as such we set said pilot -10 and war decced the corp (to avoid bloody standings losses).

I sent a very nice email to the TIPIAKS ceo explaining why and that its not any of his other members we will shoot, just the 1 guy who is set KOS.

Now in addition to this I did a little checking and noticed since December approx. 20+ Gallente loss mails which this pilot (never mind others in his corp) has been responsible for - I'm sure there are legitimate reasons for every single one of them..............

Like I said, no real big drama or anything but doing what this guy did / does in my book isn't acceptable for someone who is "on my side".

And in b4 the "OMG SoTF are horrible people"

TL/DR version - don't steal loot after a fight, it just craps on the people you are flying with.

Yup, agree with you - normally loot is used to soften peoples losses, or if there are no losses in the past we have either given it to the logi pilots as a thank you for an important task that most don't like to do! or it goes into a pot where the alliance / corp use it to provide ships FOC for pilots to use.

TIPIAKS guys are well known awoxers so it is just good that some gallente stand to defend their own !

1. welcome (back) to eve.....

2. QQ

3. Can i haz your stuff?

"Creating Content 101"

Hey mate, go read your game mechanics, you don't have to wardec tipiaks to shoot me...I'm -9.9 ss...

I know you like dramas :
-Joined fleet to have broadcast, loot after the kronos death, go to station ( cause I had loot ), leaving fleet to continue another fleet with corp mate. (I wasn't on coms , so I don't know how could I "drop coms")
-Afk a bit and when I came back, tipiaks had isk sent back to perugane (or somthing like that ?, the FC) but a war were declare by you.

If I had to declare a war for every single f*cking loot that someone steal me hahahah.

So I don't know what you expect except trying to show to the world face that you have the "biggest" by making a useless war ( cause I'm criminal ) and posting wherever you can trolling post.

I know that I'm KoS for DD now and it's fine, I don't care.
But all the drama you make around it, it's like....america, a big noise for nothing.

Couldn't have said it any better myself, Vyk gets it.

There're really nothing else SoTF could do in this situation.

They can't simply get the loot back (wait, they did), and wait for the next time this guy steals loot before war dec'ing TIPIAKS.

They can't simply ban the character from their fleets. Thus no need for war dec - if the guy steals loot then they can kill him.

They can't ban TIPIAKS from their fleets.

Nope, war dec is the way to go - even after recovering the loot in question. It's the only option available because of *game mechanics*.

Lol, you only gave it back because you got found out

You don't jump into a fight, join fleet, join comms get involved then the second it finishes grab loot drop fleet, dock up and go afk.........

Give us a break mate.

I'm not part of this, but looks like some misunderstanding could have been easily avoided by you Thorr by saying either in comms or fleet chat that you had to AFK or drop fleet and that you'd sort out the loot later.

Try accepting a bit of personal responsibility for that mistake, because reading up, I'm more inclined to think you did try to pull a fast one and are unapologetic for it, rather than that it was some genuine misunderstanding.

The rest, I dunno - just going on what I've read here as I wait to download this silly patch. I do love a good bit of drama though.