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Figaro Devars
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#1 - 2014-03-12 07:41:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Figaro Devars
I've seen a number of exploration fits for a Pilgrim, but not mission/combat site fits, so I'm wondering what a mission/combat fit would look like, and what one could reasonably run with it. Level III missions? Also, what level of DED complexes can a Pilgrim handle? Would you fit turrets/missles in the high slots, or stick with neuts?
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-03-12 08:35:56 UTC
why would you want to run missions with a covert recon.................................................................................................

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Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#3 - 2014-03-12 11:41:26 UTC
It has terrible dps and a tank that's all over the place, just doesn't make sense to use one.
Froggy Storm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2014-03-12 11:43:47 UTC
Covert recons in general wouldn't perform very well in mission/ded site pve. The pilgrim in particular wouldn't be a very good choice considering that neuts are not very effective in pve. (Read as a profound understatement)

A T1 vex would do the job better at a fraction of the cost.

If one were bound and determined to have a cruiser sized, cloaky, drone/laser ship to run missions you could try a strat.
Figaro Devars
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#5 - 2014-03-12 18:02:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Figaro Devars
I use it because I do a lot of exploring in low sec, so I'm often roaming around, and I thought it would be nice to be able to stop and run the occasional mission. Thanks for the feedback. Also, I'm hesitant to risk a 300m ISK ship (Stratios) in low sec. The Pilgrim costs half what a Stratios does.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#6 - 2014-03-12 18:17:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Figaro Devars wrote:
I use it because I do a lot of exploring in low sec, so I'm often roaming around, and I thought it would be nice to be able to stop and run the occasional mission. Thanks for the feedback. Also, I'm hesitant to risk a 300m ISK ship (Stratios) in low sec. The Pilgrim costs half what a Stratios does.



Seriously like one decent drop or a couple plexes with bad drops and you've made up the difference. In exchange you're getting twice as much ship. So unless you're got a really high lossrate...

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Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#7 - 2014-03-13 08:14:11 UTC
Pilgrim was actually a great Low-Sec explorer pre-2012, but the game has changed and it has lost a lot of its attraction. It was once a great all-in-one option and was able to complete all high-sec content, low -sec mags/radars and combat ladars. Good old times when high sec islands were actually empty. :) Today you need a ship bonused towards hacking and the competition is a lot fiercer on top of that.

That said, there was not one fit, but many different ones, optimised for the task at hand. I'll need at least a region from you to find something in my EFT.

Fun fact: I have a (notsolo) fit that does 567DPS. It was great for bombing through Outpost anoms, while everybody else in local was at each others throat over that juicy 6/10. I still love my Pilgrims.
Figaro Devars
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#8 - 2014-03-13 20:44:18 UTC
Nam Dnilb wrote:
Pilgrim was actually a great Low-Sec explorer pre-2012, but the game has changed and it has lost a lot of its attraction. It was once a great all-in-one option and was able to complete all high-sec content, low -sec mags/radars and combat ladars. Good old times when high sec islands were actually empty. :) Today you need a ship bonused towards hacking and the competition is a lot fiercer on top of that.

That said, there was not one fit, but many different ones, optimised for the task at hand. I'll need at least a region from you to find something in my EFT.

Fun fact: I have a (notsolo) fit that does 567DPS. It was great for bombing through Outpost anoms, while everybody else in local was at each others throat over that juicy 6/10. I still love my Pilgrims.


Yes, it's esily my favorite ship in the game, both for the hull's appearance and the concept. Right now I've broken down and I'm using a Stratios, but I may go back to it somday; optimization min/max be damned.
Akun Z
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-03-27 23:05:40 UTC
Nam Dnilb wrote:
Pilgrim was actually a great Low-Sec explorer pre-2012, but the game has changed and it has lost a lot of its attraction. It was once a great all-in-one option and was able to complete all high-sec content, low -sec mags/radars and combat ladars. Good old times when high sec islands were actually empty. :) Today you need a ship bonused towards hacking and the competition is a lot fiercer on top of that.

That said, there was not one fit, but many different ones, optimised for the task at hand. I'll need at least a region from you to find something in my EFT.

Fun fact: I have a (notsolo) fit that does 567DPS. It was great for bombing through Outpost anoms, while everybody else in local was at each others throat over that juicy 6/10. I still love my Pilgrims.

what is ths solo dps? can i have a look your fit?
Last Wolf
Umbra Wing
#10 - 2014-03-28 02:24:51 UTC
lasers with tech 1 crystals + cloaky cloaky + drones makes a decent 0.0 ninja ratter with unlimited ammo (assuming your drones don't go pop).

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Figaro Devars
Kenshin Industries.
Kenshin Shogunate.
#11 - 2014-03-28 03:08:11 UTC
Akun Z wrote:
[what is ths solo dps? can i have a look your fit?


I was able to get around 350dps with just the drones.

Highs:
Cov Ops Cloak II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Small Tractor
Salvager

Mids:
10mn AB II
Cargo Scanner II
Relic Analyzer I
Data Analyzer I
Scan Pinpointing Array I

Lows:
DC II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten
Drone Damage Amp II

Rigs:
Medium Memetic Algorithm Bank I
Medium Grav Capacitor Upgrade I

Drones:
5x Hobgoblin II
5x Hammerhead II
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#12 - 2014-03-28 08:12:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregor Parud
Don't use it for missions. It lacks a good tank, it lacks damage projection and it lacks any sort of dps (anyone giving you 500 dps PVE fits is giving you lol fits).