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I learned that joining a player corp for its own sake is a bad idea.
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Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#1 - 2014-03-11 21:11:30 UTC
I remember one of the silver rules of EVE is to join a player corp as soon as possible.

Bad idea imo. I got stung hard doing this because veterans said it was a good idea. Turns out that there's a pretty nasty disadvantage to that. War decs are fun Sad.

I'm not saying never join a corp, but if you want to join a corp have a reason first. It doesn't have to be a great reason, but it has to be a reason. Don't just join for its own sake.

Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.
Doireen Kaundur
Doomheim
#2 - 2014-03-11 21:19:14 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:

Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.


Join a carebear corp. Blink

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Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#3 - 2014-03-11 21:21:44 UTC
Doireen Kaundur wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:

Needless to say I'm such a carebear I never leave station without a covops cloaking device.


Join a carebear corp. Blink


Did they change War Decs since last time I joined a corp? (This is from like 2012) I thought a war dec could be instated without consent from the other corp you wish to go to war with.

If carebear corps exist, I am certain they would be the first targets of such things.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#4 - 2014-03-11 21:25:55 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:


If carebear corps exist, I am certain they would be the first targets of such things.


Correct.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Shrewd Tsero
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-03-11 21:31:45 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Did they change War Decs since last time I joined a corp? (This is from like 2012) I thought a war dec could be instated without consent from the other corp you wish to go to war with.

If carebear corps exist, I am certain they would be the first targets of such things.


Wardecs can be dropped on your corp at any time. There's no consent from the decced corp required. From my (limited) experience, if you're in a high sec corp, you're going to get decced at somepoint. Either because someone legitimately has a specific grudge against your corp and wants to play, or because there are just corps (one man or more) out there who's sole existence is based on deccing. It's how they make their money and generate content for themselves.

I've never found them to be much of a bother. Of all the things that are easy to avoid in high sec, war decs are the easiest by far. Or you could just fit out a cheap T1 frig and go have some fun. :)

It is good to have substance to one's existence.  But in the absence of substance, one can do much yet with style.
Good Posting
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-03-11 21:31:52 UTC
You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you.

Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less.
Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing.

You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#7 - 2014-03-11 21:45:51 UTC
Good Posting wrote:
You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you.

Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less.
Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing.

You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them.


Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#8 - 2014-03-11 21:46:49 UTC
Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#9 - 2014-03-11 21:51:36 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important.


Why?
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#10 - 2014-03-11 21:52:23 UTC
The only time I ever get wardecced is when I'm in a nullsec alliance that tends to have wardecs all the time. Every other wardec i've gotten while in hisec or on an alt corp has been short and uneventful.

Any competent hisec corp should know how to run from wardecs, hide from wardecs, or fight off wardecs. There really are a large number of options. If you joined a corp and were miserable because of a wardec, then you probably joined a crappy corp. They're a dime a dozen. Try joining some people that know how to fight, or at least know how to keep playing when others mess with them.

When people join a corp and don't provide a reason, its not because there's no reason. its because its too tiring to enumerate the hundreds of reasons.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2014-03-11 21:52:27 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:


Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P



Because NPC corps have drawbacks, most notably when you post on the forums and people find your lack of corp disturbing. Other less notable NPC corp features would be higher taxes, **** NPC corp chat, the appearance of being an anti-social ****, lack of meaningful in game friendships and commeraderie, the inability to field more than 1 person as a defensive force ala herding cats, and not having a super cool corp logo and superleet corp title. I mentioned the whole forum thing about the lack of corp and its disturbing nature right?...because that a big one.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#12 - 2014-03-11 21:56:25 UTC
Join a noob corp. There's a cost/value equation that goes with joining an established corp. Joining my first noob corp, Demon Womb (snigg noobs) was the best decision I ever made in EvE. I leaned more in my time with them than I have at any other time in this game. You'll have the established players acting as a shield for you (to whatever degree). I can't tell you what a relief it was when I was ratting in my first Raven and some pirates jumped in, forcing me to cloak up, and then seeing a bunch of hard-core PvPer Sniggs jump in and camp the pirates until they were dead. It's also better to do it in Null... IMHO.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#13 - 2014-03-11 21:58:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Lilianna Star wrote:
Good Posting wrote:
You can drop from your corp and the war won't follow you.

Or create your own 1 man corp and you will be ignored by wardeccers because wardec you will cost them 50 mill and you can disband and create a new corp for 1.6 mill more or less.
Or move to a lonely low sec region when you get wardecced and keep doing your pve thing.

You have many posibilities to avoid high sec wardecs if you don't want to fight back, use them.


Why would I do any of that when I can just stay in Perkone and do my thing? :P



Because statistically speaking, you'll get bored and unsub.

Because if you stay in an NPC corp, you'll be kind of isolated and less exposed to new things. Being a solo player makes a bit more sense once you've been around the block a few times, and even then you're probably better off in your own solo corp.

Because the people that live in npc corps tend to be nitwits or scout alts. If you want to chat with random people, there are plenty of channels for that.

Because the npc corp takes 11% of your cash money, instead of 0%.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#14 - 2014-03-11 22:00:50 UTC
Gogela wrote:
Join a noob corp. There's a cost/value equation that goes with joining an established corp. Joining my first noob corp, Demon Womb (snigg noobs) was the best decision I ever made in EvE. I leaned more in my time with them than I have at any other time in this game. You'll have the established players acting as a shield for you (to whatever degree). I can't tell you what a relief it was when I was ratting in my first Raven and some pirates jumped in, forcing me to cloak up, and then seeing a bunch of hard-core PvPer Sniggs jump in and camp the pirates until they were dead. It's also better to do it in Null... IMHO.

I've actually been in a Null Sec alliance before.

Hated it. They had territory but the rules were insane. As was the paranoia. First time I dropped the ball, bam. Blob jumped in and TPK. Including our only carrier.

Not doing that again. Also the constant scrutiny of being a spy was no fun.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#15 - 2014-03-11 22:02:33 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important.


Why?


Because if you join one that isn't worth a damn, you are basically wasting your time? That ought to be self explanatory.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#16 - 2014-03-11 22:08:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilianna Star
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important.


Why?


Because if you join one that isn't worth a damn, you are basically wasting your time? That ought to be self explanatory.


I was actually asking at the time why I needed to join a corp at all. When I you are working by yourself, there's no one to backstab you. Big smile
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#17 - 2014-03-11 22:10:11 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Lilianna Star wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Joining a corp that's worth a damn is kinda important.


Why?


Because if you join one that isn't worth a damn, you are basically wasting your time? That ought to be self explanatory.


I was actually asking at the time why I needed to join a corp at all. When I am working by myself, there's no one to backstab you. Big smile


Then be in an NPC corp, if working with others is distasteful.

The major reason to be in a player corp is a potentially lower tax rate for various things, however.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lilianna Star
Vagrant Empress
#18 - 2014-03-11 22:12:50 UTC
Yes, I think I will take up the advice to start up a solo corp.

Thus begins Me, Myself and I Incorporated.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#19 - 2014-03-11 22:15:15 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Yes, I think I will take up the advice to start up a solo corp.

Thus begins Me, Myself and I Incorporated.


Now for the other part.

Don't announce stuff like you have been on the forums. I would not be surprised if you've been watchlisted since this thread started.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2014-03-11 22:18:45 UTC
Lilianna Star wrote:
Yes, I think I will take up the advice to start up a solo corp.

Thus begins Me, Myself and I Incorporated.



If you name and create the two free alts on your account (even if you never login play or train them ever again) and join them to your corp no one will even know its a solo corp.
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