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1 man wardeccing - possible or way to much work?

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Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#1 - 2014-03-11 03:23:12 UTC
Hi C&P,

I have enjoyed my time as a low sec pirate/pvper but my TZ is pretty quiet so in my spare time I have been doing some exploring in high sec and have found a surprisingly decent amount of people willing to pull the trigger in high sec.

So I'm now thinking of spending more time in high and seeing what trouble I can stir up. Now I play solo 90% of the time and only have 1 alt on my single account that I use for trade/transport. So what tips can you good people of C&P impart upon me for being a 1 man terror squad in high sec?

Cheers Tao o7

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2014-03-11 03:23:38 UTC
INB4 Cannibal Kane.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#3 - 2014-03-11 03:31:37 UTC
Exploring in High Sec.......



You should feel bad just for having the sec status to go there.
Big smileBig smileBig smile


Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#4 - 2014-03-11 03:35:09 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Exploring in High Sec.......



You should feel bad just for having the sec status to go there.
Big smileBig smileBig smile




I would but the tears and the hunt is much more involving Twisted

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#5 - 2014-03-11 05:09:46 UTC
Cannibal Kane is indeed the master of this art.

You have a big advantage over larger corps - your prey will underestimate you.

That said, solo you will struggle with any determined resistance from people that understand the game. And the 50m wardec fee kinda stings when you are solo.

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Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-03-11 05:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
I have no idea how you accomplish wardec's on a single account. And if I had a hat on, I'd eat it if Cannibal Kane uses only 1 account.

Without at least a scout alt, you'll just be leroying through gates with no idea what is on the other side. Without that same scout alt finding targets in system, you'll mostly be left with station camping because as soon as you enter a system the clock starts ticking until they notice you are there and scatter. Station camping is fine, I'm not slighting it, but it is a limitation.

Now you could conceivably camp trade routes and catch some things or be able to get away if they bring more than you can handle. But unless you have a lot of wardec's going, it seems like that would get boring real fast. No offense to the big groups like Marimite. But for the solo dude gate camping trade routes isn't much fun. Invading your prey's home system and killing them where they live is much more gratifying to me.

I do a lot of "solo" wardecs. But I always use a neutral scout alt on another account. Finding them in system, or combat probing , then sneaking up on them, is a ton of fun. Hearing the lamentations of the women in local is great too.

EDIT: I just reread your post and realized I didn't answer your actual question which was to provide some tips. Although its way more difficult with 1 account, it isn't completely impossible. Here's what I'd do:

1. Set up my "base" 2j or so from the targets main system;
2. Put ships for myself and my alt there;
3. Send alt to go find the target and make a bookmark of a good warpin;
4. Alt creates contract to trade bm to main;
5. Login main, get bm;
6. Pew, pew, pew
7. Profit.

After 7, head to the station and try to get them to come out. They probably won't. If they ask for surrender terms, make it 1 PLEX. Use PLEX to get second account.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-03-11 05:46:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
I have a scout alt.

It is impossible to do 1 man wardecs without any form of scout unless you plan to sit in trade hubs all day and wardec other trade hub campers.

So that means 2 accounts. One covert ops scout and the dude you use to kill people.

Large groups is not an issue, you can easy kill smaller ships forcing the large group off field. Your biggest threat is ECM.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Don Purple
Snuggle Society
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#8 - 2014-03-11 05:51:42 UTC
Solo war dec hunting is fun, oh so much fun. Watchlist, locaters and a scout. When you terrorize a group so efficiently they will usually pay large sums for you to be gone as well :D.

I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-03-11 11:17:19 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
3. Send alt to go find the target and make a bookmark of a good warpin;
4. Alt creates contract to trade bm to main;
5. Login main, get bm;
6. Pew, pew, pew
I was considering 'soloing' with a scout alt myself.

As a more general question (I pew just in lowsec atm), wouldn't fleeting your alt and warping to her be faster and more effective? If necessary, positioning her so you can warp @ range and land at your optimal vs. the target, but without decloaking your alt?

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People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#10 - 2014-03-11 11:23:00 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
3. Send alt to go find the target and make a bookmark of a good warpin;
4. Alt creates contract to trade bm to main;
5. Login main, get bm;
6. Pew, pew, pew
I was considering 'soloing' with a scout alt myself.

As a more general question (I pew just in lowsec atm), wouldn't fleeting your alt and warping to her be faster and more effective? If necessary, positioning her so you can warp @ range and land at your optimal vs. the target, but without decloaking your alt?


Malcolm was referring to a hypothetical situation where you would be doing this with one account. Of course, the standard thing is to use a cloaky or inconspicuous alt on a second account for warpins.

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Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#11 - 2014-03-11 11:24:51 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
3. Send alt to go find the target and make a bookmark of a good warpin;
4. Alt creates contract to trade bm to main;
5. Login main, get bm;
6. Pew, pew, pew
I was considering 'soloing' with a scout alt myself.

As a more general question (I pew just in lowsec atm), wouldn't fleeting your alt and warping to her be faster and more effective? If necessary, positioning her so you can warp @ range and land at your optimal vs. the target, but without decloaking your alt?


I think he was referring to me using one account. I generally can't be bothered to have 2 accounts up and running usually.

Guess I'll just have to give it a go really. Doesn't seem this type of action goes on a great deal in my TZ from what I've seen so far. Might just be my fairly limited exposure to high sec over the last 3 years though.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-03-11 11:38:25 UTC
Derp Lol thanks for clarifying

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Lakotnik
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#13 - 2014-03-11 13:13:22 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
So what tips can you good people of C&P impart upon me for being a 1 man terror squad in high sec?

Cheers Tao o7


You can't really be a one-man terror squad no matter how hard you try. And when you get multiple accouts you're in the same boat as those "carebears" you're trying to extract money from.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-03-11 13:50:51 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
3. Send alt to go find the target and make a bookmark of a good warpin;
4. Alt creates contract to trade bm to main;
5. Login main, get bm;
6. Pew, pew, pew
I was considering 'soloing' with a scout alt myself.

As a more general question (I pew just in lowsec atm), wouldn't fleeting your alt and warping to her be faster and more effective? If necessary, positioning her so you can warp @ range and land at your optimal vs. the target, but without decloaking your alt?


H.Bot has it right that I was talking about the worst case of using one account.

But you are also right, that is exactly how it is done. I line up wartargets the same way I line up miner ganks. A cloaky scout and warp at range so as not to decloak him. I don't want my scout to get burned and have to bring in another one for that war. I land right on the target with little chance he (or I if I've underestimated him) will get away. The exception of course is mission pockets with gates. Those you just have to jump through and hope you can tackle the guy before he gets away.

Also, it wasn't asked, but another tip: If you can use a character with a name in the latter 1/2 of the alphabet you'll be happier in the wardec business. My character that starts with "D" has a much rougher time than I do because I appear much lower in the local list.

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Doomheim
#15 - 2014-03-11 13:59:00 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
I have a scout alt.

It is impossible to do 1 man wardecs without any form of scout unless you plan to sit in trade hubs all day and wardec other trade hub campers.

So that means 2 accounts. One covert ops scout and the dude you use to kill people.

Large groups is not an issue, you can easy kill smaller ships forcing the large group off field. Your biggest threat is ECM.

+1.

Having your scout alt provide link boosts to your main is additional win. These may tickle the OP's fancy.

Braver souls than I fit Logi in their scout, as a get-out-of-jail card for when things go bad, but I was never able to adequately dual box a suspect flagged alt while my main was in a shitstorm...
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#16 - 2014-03-11 19:02:11 UTC
I have one account, and I used to be a 1-man merc corp.

It is very hard.

However, here are some things to make it much, much easier.

A) Get your carebear mining friends to scout for you. You would be surprised what depravity lurks in the hearts of those so-called 'innocent' space miners. Pretty soon they will be scouting corps as possible war targets for you as well.....

B) Go to a noob system and 'hire' some noobs. They work cheap and will usually be thrilled to be getting involved in PvP this early in the game. You can usually hire a bunch, in fact, and having a dozen newbies flying in all directions is pretty fun. Sometimes you can get them to join your target and be spais, but this can be tricky.

C) Locator services (ie, Player corps that can run lots of l3/4 locators) are your friend. But they aint cheap. Oh god they are not cheap. Sometimes, tho, they are essential. EveWho is a must as well.

D) Battlecruisers are your friend.

E) Avoid t3 boats, they have a tendency to scare your WT into docking up for the week. And you generally can get the job done with t2-fit regular hulls anyway.

F) ECM is your worst enemy. Plan for it.

Everything in EVE is a trap.

And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-03-11 19:09:10 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
A) Get your carebear mining friends to scout for you. You would be surprised what depravity lurks in the hearts of those so-called 'innocent' space miners. Pretty soon they will be scouting corps as possible war targets for you as well.....

B) Go to a noob system and 'hire' some noobs. They work cheap and will usually be thrilled to be getting involved in PvP this early in the game. You can usually hire a bunch, in fact, and having a dozen newbies flying in all directions is pretty fun. Sometimes you can get them to join your target and be spais, but this can be tricky.
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Federal Navy Academy
#18 - 2014-03-11 20:53:43 UTC
Lakotnik wrote:
Taoist Dragon wrote:
So what tips can you good people of C&P impart upon me for being a 1 man terror squad in high sec?

Cheers Tao o7


You can't really be a one-man terror squad no matter how hard you try. And when you get multiple accouts you're in the same boat as those "carebears" you're trying to extract money from.

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Caldari State
#19 - 2014-03-11 21:32:13 UTC
Mike Adoulin wrote:
I have one account, and I used to be a 1-man merc corp.

It is very hard.

However, here are some things to make it much, much easier.

A) Get your carebear mining friends to scout for you. You would be surprised what depravity lurks in the hearts of those so-called 'innocent' space miners. Pretty soon they will be scouting corps as possible war targets for you as well.....

B) Go to a noob system and 'hire' some noobs. They work cheap and will usually be thrilled to be getting involved in PvP this early in the game. You can usually hire a bunch, in fact, and having a dozen newbies flying in all directions is pretty fun. Sometimes you can get them to join your target and be spais, but this can be tricky.

C) Locator services (ie, Player corps that can run lots of l3/4 locators) are your friend. But they aint cheap. Oh god they are not cheap. Sometimes, tho, they are essential. EveWho is a must as well.

D) Battlecruisers are your friend.

E) Avoid t3 boats, they have a tendency to scare your WT into docking up for the week. And you generally can get the job done with t2-fit regular hulls anyway.

F) ECM is your worst enemy. Plan for it.


Intriguing. Could you elaborate as to why battlecruisers are preferential/frequently used for such a task? Just interested.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#20 - 2014-03-12 01:54:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Taoist Dragon
hmmm damn looks like another area where alt's/links rule......I hate having to pay/plex for a second account.

One issue I have is that I run eve on an old laptop (as I travel a lot with work) so dual boxing is pretty much a no no especially in combat....

Might have to start playing with everything turned down/off :(

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

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