Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You haven't explained why bumping is a problem in the first place. (Hint: it's not).

Posting in a stealth "nerf miner bumping" thread.

Isn't this called a "Microwarpdrive"?

There is no problem with bumping.

Freighters would continue to be bumped on the Niarja gate, even with this module. In fact, virtually all cases of offensive bumping would remain and so nothing would change.

The only thing that might possibly change is the case of a lone frig bumping a freighter for ten minutes while he waits for his buddies to arrive for the gank - and then only if the freighter had an armed escort/anyone within optimals cared enough to shoot.

It's been my experience that nobody actually flies as a freighter escort unless you pay them quite handsomely and that in highsec people don't generally ever shoot suspects.

Yeah it is a bunch of cranky miners and greedy haulers complaining about it. The reason they're complaining is because they can't call corp-mates to jump the bumper, they can't dock up and grab their combat ship to fight back, and it's just annoying as hell.

You afraid of giving the carebears a way of fighting back? I thought that was the very thing that irritated you about them.

There are ways to do this without changing the way bumping works in low and null in any way whatsoever, you just have to get over the fact that it's a high sec problem and think about it for a few seconds, because fixing this problem will actually make things much more interesting.

bumping is only a problem when someone uses noobship aggro to prevent you from logging off your freighter while they slowly kill you over a period of 40 minutes (yes this is done).

In order for that to be true you either need a halfassed modification where the physics changes and the need for this mod only occur in highsec (Bad game design), you automatically make bumping into another person result in a weapons timer and suspect in null/low (bad on so many reasons), or you force people in nullsec to fit a mod specially for bumping. Potentially identical clones of MWD's/AB's with the bumping aspect attached, but that's one again very poor sloppy game design.

Frankly, in highsec where the only risks are people getting suicide ganked, and getting bumped out of range of a rock while they are afk with their head in the fridge, they can just deal with it. One small downside of non perfect convince for the ability to sit around in total safety until someone decides to gank them.

If you haven't seen docking-range station games, you clearly haven't been to Dodixie, Amarr, Jita, Rens or Hek lately.

Stuff running into each other is a fairly important part of the physics engine you know...

As to escaping, if they are not suiciding noobships into you to keep aggro timer, then just safe logoff. Poof.

Even if this is a problem (I don't think so), there is still no way to change it without making massive issues. You can't arbitrarily say "Ok, these modules are only needed to bump in highsec, everywhere else the physics operate like normal". Moving it into a psuedo prop module would mean populating bumping versions of every single AB and MWD in addition to the normal one. Putting it on a non perfectly identical to the normal propulsion mod counterpart ones means direct impact in low and null with ships forced to fit the special ones to retain bumping capabilities, where bumping targets so they cannot warp is a very very important tactic. you cannot put it on anything besides a prop mod without it taking up an additional slot. A huge deal.

It also means that ships that previously drop a MWD/AB of a type (say officer) now can drop either, with massive effects on their value, since everyone in nullsec will want ONLY the bumping one, and everyone in highsec except wants ONLY the non-bumping one, since you could quite literally fling yourself in front of these ships and get permission to kill them, like the "Throw yourself in front of a car then sue" scam, except more robbery and murder.

You also need to reduce the effect of bumping so much that you cannot just fit a non bumping one and bump the slight amount needed to keep a ship from warping. That means making everyone so incredibly brick unmovable that you could then just shove a ship in front of an aligning target and that would completely prevent them from warping as well.

So TLDR: Problem with a very questionable need to be fixed, no way to fix it without messing up tons of other things, requires a lot of dev time to implement, clutters the database, market and drops, nerfs other tactics, and is completely ineffective to boot.