Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Command ship Destroyers sounds like an awesome idea, perhaps some "relatively" unique bonuses, supporting perhaps buffing Frigate remote rep cycletime and capacitor recharge. or perhaps for the frigate fleet reduction in MWD Costs... Something to help out the players who don't have maxed out skills yet.


Just taking this idea and running in circles with it.

I would see Navy faction dessies as the tech II combat variants (better screening against firgs) and the tech II variant providing the localised command boosts. I would see the command boosts as a role bonus for the ship so that the pilot gains boosts to his leadership skills for his squad when boosts are not provided by a dedicated command ship. A jamming variant against warfare links would then also depend on the pilots skills to counter the enemy command signals.

I'm only talking about dessies specifically as I think that as a ship class they are currently under-devleoped.

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Picking up that idea....How about that these Dessies can hunt cov-ops...something like in WW II destroyers hunting subs with waterbombs

Could be smartbomb like device which make an area effect around the destroyer, which reveals (and damages) cloaked ships may be max between 5 and 10 km?

I also like the idea to somehow boost defender missile.... a defence plattform against missiles and drones (inties?)

not a bad idea...but dust bunnies have to be able to adequately fire back before we start getting specialized EVE ships to kill them.

I am going to throw my support behind this concept. Destroyers fill a niche role as an anti-frig platform, but beyond the interdiction capabilities of the Sabre and like, they don't see much use. So in the vein of using the ship to fill other niches here are some ideas.

1. Localized Ewar platforms, designed for use in larger fleet engagements. As an example a Destroyer with the ability to create an area of effect "on grid" resolution lock time decrease (eg Gallente ship). At level 5 Ewar Destroyer skill, the ship can reduce the Resolution scan by 50 from all enemy ships within a defined area. The effect on frigs and cruisers would be small. The same effect on larger ships would be huge, effectively doubling the lock time of a battleship. Multiple Dessies EWAR rigs on grid would suffer a stacking penalty. (Of course this is an idea, so use imagination for other races). Give the modual an insane capacitor load to keep it in balance. Allowing this to be used in capitol warfare would also be an interesting way to make sub-caps a part of larger fleet battles. (Caldari ship type would work as a short range EC-300 drone with a small area of effect and a small chance to jam for 1 sec. Just long enough to break locks. The Mini version would act as a mobile web platform and the Amarr would have a cap drain or small tracking disruption ability.)

2. Covert Ops Hunter. The ability to use a specialized scanner probes; when activated in proximity of a cloaked ship, acts to decloak the ship and jam the cloaking ability for up to one minute. I would suggest a specialized skill to increase the range (think size of the probe) . Level 1 may be 1 AU, where as level 5 may be 16 AU in size. This would put a hard clamp on afk cloaking. To balance the ship from being the last word in gate camping, have the probe carry a long time of flight and reaction timer like the normal scanner probe, and would be visible on D-Scan and in the overview. Once used the probe disappears.

3. Smart Bomber. No not a misprint. Dessie specifically designed to use smart bombs. The idea would be to fill the high slots with these bombs and plow them through enemy drone blobs or blobs of ships for that matter. Give the ship a cyno/cloak ability and Dessies would have a role in Black Ops.

4. Command on grid links platforms. For use with small gangs. Provides one gang link like a command ship but with 50% less effectiveness to maintain balance.

5. I am not in favor of a bigger badder T2 combat assault Dessie. We don't need another counter to Destroyers. They are essentially balanced to be their own counters. IMO.

So essentially as a final comment. The Destroyers would have a stronger rbut more specialized role in both small gang and larger fleet engagements. A frig gang running into an EWAR Dessie would smoke the Dessie, but the smart bomber would wreck the frigs if it got close enough. An EWAR Dessie would cause plenty of head aches for Battleships and possibly capitol ships, but would still be countered by frigs and cruisers. A covert Ops hunter provides tons of content as the hunters become the hunted and neutral cloaky campers have a possible counter.

Don't see why they'd switch them around. There are multiple other ship hulls that change weapon types for T2 versions. Gives players with different skills a chance to fly the hull styles they want ;)


Rather than normal links - how about small scale ranged links - ie a bubble that surrounds the ship that performs some sort of buffs?

I like all of these ideas. I would probably look for a different mechanic for the CovOps hunter though. Not sure exactly what though.

Cause maybe if we see more ships we will see not only high med low and rig slots but dual weapon ships more slots more hps different dmg and roles and more variance since now the only variance you see is armor tanking or shield tanking and lasers projectiles missiles hybrids drones the end.They all look the same with different names.I mean you should see differences in a battlecruiser and a battleship but no both can do almost the same damage.The only category that changed eve (subcap ships always) was marauders,