EVE General Discussion

trading is already a valid profession.
the population of trade hubs wouldn't be reduced, in fact they'd just make it worse as everyone flocks to the "most popular" one, and abandons the others due to difficulty of travelling between he current hubs.

This has been covered to death already.

Each faction space already offers unique rewards. If this low-sec change were implemented, it would require they even more so spread out the resources around the map.

This means 50% of high-sec players being in Caldari space will drive down the prices of those mats considerably, making it very lucrative to move shop to another part of space.

Hence why this overpopulation paranoia is just that, paranoia. We already have overpopulation in Caldari space, precisely because there's no reason to go anywhere else. This would change that.

Look at Solitude, it has a localized trade hub. If empires were separated they would have their own local trade hub, as they do now, though deadspace/faction goodies would likely be centralized as they are now.

What if the point of capturing systems in FW, were to convert them to highsec for your faction? As long as you held them above a certain level, they would be pushed to a .5 system.
If you can connect 2 factions with a highsec route, you get great LP payouts and perhaps isk in the form of gate fees charged to non-FW travelers.

CCP could have done so much with this, instead we get ship painting, for money...

Translation:

"If anything in the game changes that isn't favoring MY playstyle, I'll quit and so will everyone else from my playstyle and the game will die, so you can't be mean to us or else!"

This is called holding other people's gameplay hostage. It's reprehensible, petty, and small.

It's also the same thing people constantly accuse the Goons of doing, which makes more than half of you highsec posters hypocrites, too.

Because 1) Nobody "owns" FW so who the hell would it pay out to, 2) Go to nullsec if you want to be landowner, FW is not nullsec-lite

... because Amarr space is so well endowed. Huge, even.

It had to be said.

It's not that far if you go through Ammattar space

Im very much for some game mechanic that would more incentivise the retention of goods in the geographic region they are sourced from, rather than the endless, most often uninterrupted, flow of everything and everyone, to Jita.

Ideally, commodities should be much cheaper at their source, than at the end point (Jita).
This is sadly rarely the case currently however (though I by no means pretend to comprehend the flow of every item type in the universe).

Hek/Rens, to me, is a fascinating and game inducing duality.

As you point out, it is one of the few hubs (I group the two as part of the same whole in my perception) isolated from others, by sheer circumferential detour necessary to reach other hubs.

I think its great that two systems in so close proximity to each other have risen to this competetive status, both against each other,and the rest of the galaxy. And whats even better, its in Minmatar space (which imo indirectly represents, ingame, the Minmatar ethos. Its a very Minmatar "thing" that there is this kind of internal, mutually beneficial rivalry). As well as the antioathy Minmatar have for their former slavers.

I feel bad though, because I do still ship my stuff to Jita...

But thats how the logistics work in my current primary occupation of high-sec combat combat exploration.
That loot that I pull, is more highly valued in Jita than in my immediate vicinity, and the cost of couriering it, is less than my profit from seloing there, rather than domestically. Infact its so cheap compared to my profits, that I dont even have to consider moving it myself (not to mention the risk/specialisation involved) when I can simply use that time to run more sites.

Ive expanded into some ice mining recently, and in that, atleast, local markets are strong.
That is encouraging for my wish that EVE would be a "bigger place" in terms of the movement of materials and players, meaning local develoment, rsther than centralisation in some far off region of the galaxy, rather than the current "All roads lead to Jita" situation. Especially as I so deeply deplore the Jita fatcats and their deliberate exploitation and "entitled" arguments to the contrary of this.

Dear Kaarous, to answer your mis-translation. I will try to make this as simple as possible so that you can follow it.

I spend the vast majority of my play time in lo-sec.

I did not not ask for, nor have I ever asked that CCP alter, adjust or tweak any Eve security level to suit my, or any group of players play style, I leave that to CCP to decide.

I have never complained about anything the goons have done in terms of playing the game, in fact I have posted before to the effect that the goon planned and led 'ice interdiction' is the best player driven event I have seen in my time in Eve Online.

I simply think that if hi-sec was to be removed from the game, that many, many players would quit altogether and, that not enough new folk would start playing the new harsher Eve Online to keep the game financially viable.

You are welcome to disagree with my opinion, but please do not misrepresent what I said to suit your own agenda.

You used to be my favourite 'crazy' poster now you just seem to rant for the sake of ranting.

If you do not understand any of my post, feel free to eve-mail me, and I shall be quite happy to indulge your rants.