Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Actually, the problem with the Nex store was twofold.

First, some of the pricing was absolutely ********, the monocle being the worst offender. This isn't really an issue in and of itself, but it frustrated some folks. I personally found it entirely appropriate, as the space-rich could use something stupid to buy.

Second was a huge debacle over a leaked internal memo forwarding the idea that consumable items that actually affected in space performance of ships be introduced in the Nex store. It was my understanding that this memo was part of a spitball brainstorming session from a junior developer. The company line had always been that this would not occur, and the backlash when it was found out that someone in the western hemisphere actually considered it for a minute was a bit...strong.

The day there is anything like that in the Nex store is the end of EVE as we know it. It borders on it now, but if EVE becomes purely pay to win, you may as well sell the whole thing to one of the Asian companies that are busily tanking every IP they can get their hands on with the same schemes.

Secondly, you have a vocal minority of players that will shout down any idea that does not involve PvP directly. Since WiS does not involve combat, just social interaction, they hate it and consider it a complete waste of time to even think about.

You do have a somewhat quieter minority that believes that the development of EVE as a game in itself, with actual content beyond PvP has been sorely lacking for a very long time. There have been some primarily PvE features added, but most of them end up feeling half done and then abandoned. WiS is a great example---it functions, but it should be much, much more.

It takes a lot of work and for now there is still DUST which is probably advancing on the character stuff most. They might merge it someday but I'm not sure if they have to. If they don't rebind everything you do with interfaces to interactions with NPCs there isn't really a need to. It'd really clutter up the game more.

And that comes from someone who approves of the idea in general.

They mainly have come up with something to do on a station apart from walking around and I don't know what else there would be. I imagine that the ropleplaying aspect could be boosted a lot by changing how you find agents and stuff but that's really as far as it makes sense to go.

I disagree, eve is a science fiction simulator, we need avatars to tie it all together.

Eve is about people not spaceships.

Isn't your disdain bringing down Eve Online thus adding to its destruction?

What you are asking for would be awesome. BUT, there are so many issues with the current game as is, these forums are full of them, and I would rather not add more until the current issues are fixed.

can i use it to go stand in other peoples quarters and annoy the crap of them?

"you won't undock? fine. I'm just gonna stand right your face all day."

I'm going to go with no for $1000, Alex.

No disdain here, you clearly can't read. Please feel free to contribute to the thread when you've completed some English language education and understand the meaning of words such as 'disdain'.

I think it would be quite simple to add a little something people can do in station that doesn't take anything away from the game itself or have an impact on what goes on outside of the station.

Add a dart board and 8 ball table. Few minutes quick entertainment while 'waiting' for something to do in space.

I do like the Novel idea of WiS, But there is still ALOT to add to Eve and fix in Eve. With projects like the Little things and other Fixes suddenly being implemented I would hate to curtail that mindset going on. CCP is making great headway with this game. Before something as a Social feature gets added to the game with little to no effect on the overall game. I would love to see Industry fleshed out more first. PVE/PVP have T2 and Faction variants fleshed out nicely ( except missiles.. we need a damn pirate missile faction) I want to see some Faction and T2 variants of existing Industry ships. We have Barges and haulers, I would love to see some pirate variations of the Orca and Venture or T2 variants of them. We have the BC and the T2 version command ships, time to get a T2 Industrial command ship -Rorqual doesn't count-.

PVE needs a major overhaul from missioning to Mining. Missions alone need some major TLC, and Mining needs to be redone to remove the AFK ability. More Dangerous Rat's or something. You want increased Social aspects to the game, get the game more tied in. Make Industry corps more reliant on Combat Pilots, and Pilots more reliant on Indy corps to keep them shipped up. The Industry changes to Null are great, but more needs to be done.

PVP needs some more love also. Faction warfare needs to be made more important into the game and pushed more to bridge PVE into PVP. Sov is a nightmare but thats a giant animal to tackle correctly. Structure Grinding needs some decent changes to it and infrastructure shifted to more costly. Null needs to get slightly more Dependent on players to hold space. So much of Null is held and not even used. Getting new mechanics into the game that require player use of the systems to maintain them would make it more difficult to hold hundreds of systems, but open the possibilities to new blocks coming in and holding sov adding to more content in null.

Brain in the box also needs to become a reality to get this game enjoyable and out of 10% tidi all the time in moderate engagements. Only after I see these start to occur would I get behind WiS to be fleshed out.