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High-sec ganking
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Bethan Le Troix
Krusual Investigation Agency
#161 - 2014-03-15 15:21:51 UTC
Not all gankers do suicide ganking just for the 'QQ' or for the ISK from cargo drops at least not in a direct sense. Personally I only target corporations containing accounts all run by only one person or very few people that **** asteroid belts while 'afk/ISBoxing leaving nothing for the other smaller miners operating single accounts. These people are just greedy and are not playing EVE as it ideally should be played. The targets tend to understand what they have done and move on. If they don't then they pay for it.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#162 - 2014-03-15 21:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Matogg wrote:
#2 Give ships in high-sec the same DPS as a high-sec RAT would have if they were attempting to blow up a ship that they didn't have a killright or a war-dec on
lol Smile, You know that even the poorest mining vessel with a fair tank can near perma-tank high sec rats now ... right? Are you suggesting we nerf high sec player dps or buff high sec rat dps?

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

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Winchester Steele
#163 - 2014-03-15 22:00:44 UTC
Matogg wrote:
Danalee wrote:
Must... Resist... showing support for Feyd....[/i]

I'm sure he is shaking in his boots, but calling people psychotic because they don't agree with you on internet spaceships isn't healthy to say the least. A lot of miners have been getting killed for quite some time now, when will your plan to change perfectly good stuff by whining about it come in motion.. Oh wait.... Sad

It's PAY it forward, you delicious troll you.

D.

Bear


This is what I'm talking about :

" Let me introduce you to Feyd's Kill-It-Forward queue...

For every carebear who calls in the EvE-O forums for nerfs to hisec, rails against HTFU or who simply insults an emissary of pvp, an additional innocent carebear will be hunted down and murdered. I will not hunt down the transgressor, I will put a stake in the heart of an innocent and let him know who is ultimately responsible for his demise"




Wow. Feyd. That is an AWESOME idea. It's content providers like Feyd who keep this game interesting and fresh.

Matogg on the other hand . . . Ugh

...

Kyperion
#164 - 2014-03-17 12:53:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyperion
Matogg wrote:
There are many ways to enjoy EvE Online...mining , manufacturing , missions , ratting , exploration as well as PvPing . It's well known even to newcomers that if you want to go after the the most lucretive fruit that is found in null-sec , low-sec and wormhole space . In other words "dangerous" space . There aren't many people in system in null/low/WH space and it's fairly easy to keep track of who's who out there . Plus there are intel channels , something you couldn't even make work in a system like Jita or others with anywhere from 300 to 3000 people in them at all times . A ganker can slide right up next to you in high-sec and you'd never even know they were a threat until it was too late to do anything about it . They use cheap little throw-away catalysts for the most part but even the new T3 battlecruisers are no big loss compared to the riches that can be carried by some poor unsuspecting frieghter pilot in high-sec carrying the sum total of perhaps 3-4 years accumulation and work in a ship that moves like a snail and can't even fit so much as a defense mod . What i'm saying is if you're ganked in anything other than high-sec you were often just plain unlucky and taking your chances . Not going about your business like in high-sec where you only had a slow reacting CONCORD to depend on to almost save your ship .
So I've got a few suggestions for CCP based on the above "if possible" . #1 make CONCORD show up as soon ships turn on the "disable safety" button and blow up any ship that fires on another that they don't have a war-dec or a killright on . #2 Give ships in high-sec the same DPS as a high-sec RAT would have if they were attempting to blow up a ship that they didn't have a killright or a war-dec on .

There's been a lot of buzz going around about how much danger there should be in high-sec but I don't force my game on gankers so why should they be allowed to force their game on me !

**what...what's that ? did i hear the word whine**


Because the 'gankers' are at their heart, weak kneed sissies... and only shoot at soft targets, and their primary goal is to elicit an angry EVEmail so they can claim to 'harvest tears' (also known as griefing in EVERY other game)

So any proposal to make EVE a true PVP sandbox, where Mining Vessels and Freighters actually defend themselves by equally deadly force will be ridiculed and derided. (all while nervously fidgeting in their seats hoping their targets never gain the capacity to shoot back)

And CCP seems content to cater to the bottom of the barrel in gaming.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#165 - 2014-03-17 13:07:03 UTC
Kyperion wrote:


Because the 'gankers' are at their heart, weak kneed sissies... and only shoot at soft targets, and their primary goal is to elicit an angry EVEmail so they can claim to 'harvest tears' (also known as griefing in EVERY other game)

So any proposal to make EVE a true PVP sandbox, where Mining Vessels and Freighters actually defend themselves by equally deadly force will be ridiculed and derided. (all while nervously fidgeting in their seats hoping their targets never gain the capacity to shoot back)

And CCP seems content to cater to the bottom of the barrel in gaming.


Oh, so that must be why so many of us wardec people, giving them a 24 hour notice in advance that PvP is about to happen. Or why we openly display our affiliations and our negative sec status for all to see if they cared to do something about it.

Or not.

You know who I think the "weak kneed sissies" are? The kind of person who thinks they shouldn't have to make any kind of tradeoff when flying industrial ships. They're such risk averse cowards that they can't even be bothered to fly combat ships, they have to cry to CCP about the ship they chose of their own free will isn't the best at everything.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kyperion
#166 - 2014-03-17 13:10:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Kyperion
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:


Because the 'gankers' are at their heart, weak kneed sissies... and only shoot at soft targets, and their primary goal is to elicit an angry EVEmail so they can claim to 'harvest tears' (also known as griefing in EVERY other game)

So any proposal to make EVE a true PVP sandbox, where Mining Vessels and Freighters actually defend themselves by equally deadly force will be ridiculed and derided. (all while nervously fidgeting in their seats hoping their targets never gain the capacity to shoot back)

And CCP seems content to cater to the bottom of the barrel in gaming.


Oh, so that must be why so many of us wardec people, giving them a 24 hour notice in advance that PvP is about to happen. Or why we openly display our affiliations and our negative sec status for all to see if they cared to do something about it.

Or not.

You know who I think the "weak kneed sissies" are? The kind of person who thinks they shouldn't have to make any kind of tradeoff when flying industrial ships. They're such risk averse cowards that they can't even be bothered to fly combat ships, they have to cry to CCP about the ship they chose of their own free will isn't the best at everything.



Your rage at being called out on the carpet is glorious

And I fly merchant ships because I love the Ishtar heavy assault 'industrial' ship with multiple flights of 600-800 DPS sentry drones, a few ECM drones, and some Hobgoblin 2s.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#167 - 2014-03-17 13:12:19 UTC
Kyperion wrote:


Your rage at being called out on the carpet is glorius


At least spell it right, Philistine.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Kyperion
#168 - 2014-03-17 13:17:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:


Your rage at being called out on the carpet is glorius


At least spell it right, Philistine.


Fixed, thank you. However, someone like you calling me a philistine is most droll
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#169 - 2014-03-17 14:44:56 UTC
Kyperion wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kyperion wrote:


Your rage at being called out on the carpet is glorius


At least spell it right, Philistine.


Fixed, thank you. However, someone like you calling me a philistine is most droll


You missed a period after the word "droll", just so you know.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Johnathan Flubb
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#170 - 2014-03-17 14:56:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Johnathan Flubb
Kyperion wrote:
Because the 'gankers' are at their heart, weak kneed sissies... and only shoot at soft targets, and their primary goal is to elicit an angry EVEmail so they can claim to 'harvest tears' (also known as griefing in EVERY other game)

So any proposal to make EVE a true PVP sandbox, where Mining Vessels and Freighters actually defend themselves by equally deadly force will be ridiculed and derided. (all while nervously fidgeting in their seats hoping their targets never gain the capacity to shoot back)

And CCP seems content to cater to the bottom of the barrel in gaming.


But people in mining ships and freighters have all the tools to defend themselves with equally deadly force. They can bring escorts and fit tanks and such.

Unless of course you want dedicated industrial vessels to have the same potential for destruction as a ship designed for combat. That would just be silly of course.
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#171 - 2014-03-17 15:51:04 UTC
Greed is a powerful motivator. Instead of using alts for protection, highsec miners use these alts for ever more yield. They then spend all their isk on plexing more accounts for more yield, etc. The funny thing is all they collectively accomplish is driving down the price of the minerals they sell in the market. Wise highsec miners understand this. That's why they buy mining permits and rejoice whenever they see their competition lose retrievers, mackinaws, orcas, etc in local.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.