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High-sec ganking

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Anslo
Scope Works
#101 - 2014-03-11 04:33:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Funny, then why hasn't the bumping and ganking stopped? I ganked a guy in Sinq Laison earlier, and no "carebears with guns" came to stop me. The botter in question didn't even have his drones out, so no one got on my killmail.


We prevent the high<->low camps, we teach our bears how to survive and kill. We can't be everywhere at once. But we still win simply by existing and doing what we do :)

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I have to say, I question your effectiveness. And if all you meant by that statement above was that you stopped mining... well then, I guess we really know who wins, don't we? That's kinda the point of whole New Order thing, to make those freaking people actually play the game.

The funny thing is, I can't even fly a venture vOv

But no, the miners we have still mine, and OUR miners don't get ganked. They learn. And we grow, everyday. And there is nothing you can do to stop us :)


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If you want to thank us, I totally understand

Gratitude is reserved for the relevant.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#102 - 2014-03-11 04:41:58 UTC
Now that is a nice piece of self delusion right there.

Guess what, slick? I still bump and gank to my heart's content. I've nailed more than a few guys from the Scope, one of my gank alts lives in Gallente space for that matter.

You haven't stopped jack, and you're just puffing yourself up to disguise the fact that your Proveldtariat got rolled and disbanded in record time. So now, you lot basically ran away from the New Order, dove headfirst into NPC corps, and claimed victory because unicorns.

But the bumping continues, and the ganking goes on.

You've stopped nothing. You've accomplished none of your original (hilarious) stated goals. And when you failed in your blatant attempts to call CCP on us (because they basically told you to get stuffed), you claim victory anyway.

But I guess the South will rise again, or whatever helps you sleep at night.

In the meantime, if you're ever interested in fighting us(since you refused a 1v1 and you won't fight without a fleet behind you), you can always wardec the numerous New Order corporations out there. Oh, wait, NPC corp, right.

What is it that you do... precisely?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Anslo
Scope Works
#103 - 2014-03-11 04:45:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
What do we do? ***** I told youlike three times already come find out but you keep going around this big old circle of logic.

Whatever, cultural victory. GG.

EDIT: Proveld never actually formed a corp. Been in an NPC corp organizing things for a while.

Get your info straight, nerd.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Istyn
Freight Club
#104 - 2014-03-11 05:22:51 UTC
How did you two manage to make this thread even stupider?

Impressive.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#105 - 2014-03-11 05:31:11 UTC
Istyn wrote:
How did you two manage to make this thread even stupider?

Impressive.


Quote:
"Fight me bro, gankers have no balls!"

"Ok, but not all of you..."

"Nuh uh! Nut up or shut up!"

"That actually applies against a 40 man fleet?"

"Yeah huh! And it's only a 20 man fleet, so there!"

"Why not just fight me by yourself?"

"You don't deserve a fair fight! Gankers are wussies for not fighting fair though!"


That's how.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#106 - 2014-03-11 07:03:35 UTC
Matogg wrote:
I didn't expect to be making friends among high-sec gankers and ganker sympathizers and I have only this to say to those who have posted so far in reply .

HI-SEC GANKING IS NOT ANYBODY'S RIGHT ...IT IS ILLEAGLE !

The problem is that a blind eye has been turned to it for the last few years as it steadily got worse . There used to be fun for all not just a minor segment of the playing population who will milk this cow until it can't stand up . CONCORD needs longer arms and sharper teeth .



Your right it is illegal... That's why all of those catalysts got destroyed. Too bad your loot piñata blew up before their catalysts blew up Twisted
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#107 - 2014-03-11 07:42:57 UTC
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I'm an industrialist .... What if there was a rule that gankers had to except contracts to buy our stuff regardless if they wanted it or not ? You don't buy , you aren't allowed to gank !


They already have to buy stuff in order to be allowed to gank: weapons, ammunitions, ships - everything they use to blow you up is either built or loot from a missionrunner. And just because you're an industrial doesn't mean you have to mine, buy minerals you need and pay someone for shipping.

Get on Comms, or die typing.

Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#108 - 2014-03-11 07:43:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Luwc
LolLolLolLol carebear alert whoop whoop carebear alert whoop whoop LolLolLolLol

The fun thing is. By these whiney threads you attract even more people to gank you because seeing you cry and beeing butthurt is mad fun
.
Also if I loot your ship and get a few T2 harvesters for a T1 destroyer I still make isk out of it.

The idea is that nothing in this game should be without risk and its supposed to be that way.
There is no broken mechanic
Your ideas of "Concord protocted space" are broken.

Please leave EvE or man up. Roll



<3 u Pirate

http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif

Lina Drasselbaff
Doomheim
#109 - 2014-03-11 11:39:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Lina Drasselbaff
Matogg wrote:
Somebody who was defending hi-sec ganking mentioned that Jita had the highest value kills anywhere ....well you would wonder why with THOUSANDS of people in system to keep track of and none going flashy until they open fire .
At least I know you're reading my posts, even if you don't respond to my points.

To answer this. Most industrialists spend time in stations, you can view local from station.
You can set up small colortags and standings based on killboards, experience, or corp/alliance intel, this will give you a rough idea how many bad guys are around before you undock.

When you undock you can set your overview to highlight the people with negative sec status, or people with bad standings, or people with bounties. This will give you a rough idea of how many bad guys there are in the area. It's not gaurenteed, sure, but as with most other "but I can't do anything!!" posts, you can do something.

Gankers have to plan to pop you, and you have to plan to not get popped. Sounds pretty balanced to me ;)

You can also use insta undocks which I suspect would prevent many of the ganks that currently happen.

Lastly, most people in Jita get ganked because they're too big a target. Carrying too much cargo, using plastic wrap etc.
admiral root
Red Galaxy
#110 - 2014-03-11 12:29:00 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Anslo wrote:
We 'mouth breathers' did organize into a thing. We've been waiting to be 'put in our place as pubbies.' Sadly, highsec gankers dont seem to like low sec :(


Tell me more, Anslo, what thing did you organize? Don't be cryptic.


You have to read his ineffectual, seldom-updated and horribly written blog to get more details. :P

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#111 - 2014-03-11 13:22:22 UTC
Anslo,

Please explain how camping low sec gates impacts hi sec gankers in the slightest.

Thanks
Matogg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#112 - 2014-03-12 03:40:49 UTC
Luwc wrote:
LolLolLolLol carebear alert whoop whoop carebear alert whoop whoop LolLolLolLol

The fun thing is. By these whiney threads you attract even more people to gank you because seeing you cry and beeing butthurt is mad fun
.
Also if I loot your ship and get a few T2 harvesters for a T1 destroyer I still make isk out of it.

The idea is that nothing in this game should be without risk and its supposed to be that way.
There is no broken mechanic
Your ideas of "Concord protocted space" are broken.

Please leave EvE or man up. Roll



<3 u Pirate



Ok I'll answer this post just because it's so filled with unoriginal thoughts like "whiney" , "carebear alert" , "cry" and suggestions that there's only one way to enjoy EvE.....yours..... ! Why should you care what I say ? You're out in null-sec , aren't you ? I've made no suggestions for any changes out in null or low-sec or WH space for that matter . If you ganked me out in Fountain I'd probably congratulate you unless you were blue to me . Plus telling me to "leave EvE" says you haven't been reading much of this thread [it's been stated....frequently] . What it does say is that you're probably not one of a hand full of highly vocal pro-gankers with more accounts than most people can afford ! Just a random poster .

The pro-gankers got good reason to be afraid of guys like me . The Gods of EvE might actually be paying attention . They have before . In the beginning high-sec was without protection it seems . Maybe just a few guns here and there . Then gankers made the installation of CONCORD necessary but alas they were weak and might easily be ganked themselves . Thank gankers for the next installation . They gave CONCORD the dreaded Doomsday Devise and made them tougher , maybe impossible to gank . To meet them now is to be driven before them like dust in the solar winds . Still there's room for improvement with organized crime getting bolder and more organized .

Yet there's still gankers who think this causes them to push the envelope further . They remind me of a burglar who discovers a big house with nobody home and a door key hidden in an obvious place . He enters and finds a number expensive items and money that could be pilfered and might even be blamed on somebody the owners knew if he had just kept a low profile , steal them and lock the door behind him . Also it could have been a place he might have been able to visit again ......but....Oh no , not him . He has to get on the phone and call a bunch of friends to back up on the lawn with their cars and clean the place out . His ego you know . So this lets the owners know something is up . The cops dust for fingerprints and find them on the phone he used to call his buddies and instead of wealth , he gets the slammer !

Moral : gankers are afraid that my voice might cause them to loose their big rich house . They really ought to blame themselves for loosing as much as they have already .
Jared Lennox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#113 - 2014-03-12 04:03:22 UTC
Matogg wrote:
There are many ways to enjoy EvE Online...mining (Suicide Ganking) , manufacturing (Flying the manufactured Catalysts to Suicide Gank) , missions (AFK Officer Fit Raven Ganking) , ratting (side activity to buy more catalysts) , exploration (It's sometimes useful to find targets yes) as well as PvPing (I F*CKING LOL MACKINAW PVP AND FREIGHTER PVP WOOT \o/ .


Made some necessary corrections and snipped the parts where it was violating the New Halaima Code of Conduct.

It's called the Code Moderation.


I accept your apology in my wallet as a payment of 10m ISK. Normally I'd take more but since you are kinda new to this, I only take the default payment. And they say the Code is unfair ha.ha. It´s not a shame not to know; what is bad is not asking.





Blah

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Whine

Whine

Cry

Cry

Some nonsense

yada

yada

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#114 - 2014-03-12 04:11:58 UTC
People still whining here.

If your idea of awesomely skilled pvp is to harass high sec industrialist... Well, erm, good for you? Really going for the lowest hanging fruit. Literally, heck, ain't even hanging, you're picking it up off the ground.

Small scale to medium scale low sec full on engagements are where the fun is for me. Going head to head with your machine against another machine... It is so much better. I mean seriously, my target should at least have a gun lol.

Anslo has stated he is in Huola. Even invited you to go there. Honestly, put your money where your mouth is and go. Least you get out of is a good time right?

Remember, this is a game. He is actually asking you to play a game with him... Don't leave. About hanging by himself in the play ground guys!!
Jared Lennox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2014-03-12 04:15:02 UTC
Brylan Grey wrote:
People still whining here.



Small scale to medium scale low sec full on engagements are where the fun is for me. Going head to head with your machine against another machine... It is so much better. I mean seriously, my target should at least have a gun lol.



Well, erm, good for you !

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2014-03-12 04:29:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Brylan Grey
Jared Lennox wrote:
[quote=Brylan Grey]People still whining here.

Well, erm, good for you !


Love you too! But seriously, different play styles for different folks. But aside from that, one can't claim superior game play when their entire goal in game is to make PVE players feel sad while the other side actively looks to engage.

That being said, hi sec ganking isn't as bad as it always sounds and seems. When I started eve I didn't know mechanics and go thanked for over half a billion due to my ignorance. But that only happened once. So, not like it's where hi sec people are too afraid to even undock.

Most I'd ask for, is to teach. Tell them what they did wrong or direct them to a place they can take revenge. Turn those care ears into blood thirsty PVPers!

Goal shouldn't be make them quit EVE, but get MORe involved. Hell, I'd admire a high sec ganging corp that asled their victims to seriously join them after. That would be hella cool... Can't join unless a previous victim lol.
Jared Lennox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#117 - 2014-03-12 04:32:40 UTC
Brylan Grey wrote:
Jared Lennox wrote:
[quote=Brylan Grey]People still whining here.

Well, erm, good for you !


Love you too! But seriously, different play styles for different folks. But aside from that, one can't claim superior game play when their entire goal in game is to make PVE players feel sad while the other side actively looks to engage.

That being said, hi sec ha king isn't as bad as it always sounds and seems. When I started eve I didn't know mechanics and go thanked for over half a billion due to my ignorance. But that only happened once. So, not like it's where hi sec people are too afraid to even undock.

Most I'd ask for, is to teach. Tell them what they did wrong or direct them to a place they can take revenge. Turn those care ears into blood thirsty PVPers!

Goal shouldn't be make them quit EVE, but get MORe involved. Hell, I'd admire a high sec ganging corp that asled their victims to seriously join them after. That would be hella cool... Can't join unless a previous victim lol.


Ok trolling aside, but seriously you'd be surprised by the amount of highsec miners who wants to join us everyday :). After witnessing the death of their poor colleagues. We never turn them down believe me.

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html

Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2014-03-12 04:45:35 UTC
Well, so long as you don't grief players. Grieving is a bit different than being mean in local. Some people target them over and over. That stuff I can't stand.

And always be true to your word. Rand some for 10m, get 10m and leave, well then seems legit to me.

But if you ever want some sort of fleet engagement, then go for low sec, heck go with Anslo and set it up. It is a game after all. People want good fights, not always blobs. But, a starving animal will take what it can get!
Matogg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#119 - 2014-03-12 04:55:39 UTC
Lina Drasselbaff wrote:
Matogg wrote:
Somebody who was defending hi-sec ganking mentioned that Jita had the highest value kills anywhere ....well you would wonder why with THOUSANDS of people in system to keep track of and none going flashy until they open fire .
At least I know you're reading my posts, even if you don't respond to my points.


Lina I don't mean to snub you and yes I read your posts . You give a lot of advice and perhaps I shouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as insincere . Sarcasm in these forums is sometimes quite subtle , I've found , in the short time I've been posting in them . If you're giving it in legitimate sincerity I apologize .
Brylan Grey
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2014-03-12 05:21:09 UTC
Matogg wrote:
Lina Drasselbaff wrote:
Matogg wrote:
Somebody who was defending hi-sec ganking mentioned that Jita had the highest value kills anywhere ....well you would wonder why with THOUSANDS of people in system to keep track of and none going flashy until they open fire .
At least I know you're reading my posts, even if you don't respond to my points.


Lina I don't mean to snub you and yes I read your posts . You give a lot of advice and perhaps I shouldn't be so quick to dismiss it as insincere . Sarcasm in these forums is sometimes quite subtle , I've found , in the short time I've been posting in them . If you're giving it in legitimate sincerity I apologize .


Dude... I love you. A dang gentleman in eve... Rare.