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High-sec ganking

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Haedonism Bot
People for the Ethical Treatment of Rogue Drones
#61 - 2014-03-10 18:26:34 UTC
Anslo wrote:
We 'mouth breathers' did organize into a thing. We've been waiting to be 'put in our place as pubbies.' Sadly, highsec gankers dont seem to like low sec :(


Tell me more, Anslo, what thing did you organize? Don't be cryptic.

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Anslo
Scope Works
#62 - 2014-03-10 18:49:45 UTC
Just telling would ruin the fun~ come find us!

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#63 - 2014-03-10 18:53:30 UTC

Op, I'm pretty sure you have quite a few things wrong:

1.) The devaluation of isk is the result of inflation. This happens when more isk enter's our game's economy than leaves it. Organized Crime is NOT even remotely responsible for the price increases, but the Mission Runners, Incursioners, WH'ers, and Nullsec Ratters. These are massive faucets of isk into our game.

2.) Highsec ganking has been around since the beginning of the game. Believe it or not, Concord has not been around that long, and the first versions of concord could be tanked to boot! Concord is not the magical make-you-safe police. EvE is a dystopia, and so we have imperfect police (just like in RL). They don't arrive instantly and make you safe, instead they arrive AFTER the crime has been committed. Your store will already be robbed, your house already burglarized, your spouse already shot dead, and your child already kidnapped BEFORE they arrive in 90% of the time. Be happy that they always catch the criminal and blow up their ship, but just like in real life, that doesn't mean you and yours is unmolested and made whole at the end of the incident. Take precaution, because ultimately you are primarily responsible for your own safety!

3.) The victim must take some responsibility. This game offers a lot of tools and mechanics to prevent significant losses, and you are responsible for using them. Tanking your ships, limiting the value of your cargo, avoiding high-crime areas... these are all tools available to you, so you must use them. This might sound like a "blame the victim" mindset, but it is really a matter of making safe choices. You don't kick a baby bear in front of its mom. You don't flash money in front of poor starving people. You don't use your fingers to unstuck the sink's disposal.

If you feel the current ingame tools don't allow you to operate effectively in game, please state why! Don't QQ about how unfair suicide ganking is, but instead focus on why the current methods to keep your stuff safe is inadqueate. At the end of the day, that is what matters: Why are the current options to haul, mission run, mine in a more safe manner not appropriate or broken?
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2014-03-11 01:27:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
Go to eve-kil. Look on right side of page for top killers this month. Select CONCORD Police Captain. Look at his history then explain to me how ganking is on the rise. In reality CONCORD should be nerfed. In a sandbox game where players make the stories tell me which alliance in Eve can provide this:

1. standing response fleet 24/7 in whatever system you happen to be in:
2. the ability to disable warp engines of any ship that agresses you as soon as they open fire:
3. to land on grid with the response fleet no later than 25 seconds after the first shot:
4. response fleet lands that can handle any comp the aggressors have:
5. upon landing response fleet insta locks and 100% jams every single agressor;
6. wiithin a few seconds kills all aggressors regardless of skill, equipment or tactics.

This is a ludicrous amount of protection that absolutely no nullsec alliance no matter how large or skilled can provide. And it is this ludicrous amount of protection that is still not enough for this OP. It is no wonder Goons look down on hisec residents so much. You have all of the advantages of the omnipotent gods of CONCORD and you beg for more protection like a milk sucking baby.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#65 - 2014-03-11 01:32:23 UTC
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Anslo wrote:
We 'mouth breathers' did organize into a thing. We've been waiting to be 'put in our place as pubbies.' Sadly, highsec gankers dont seem to like low sec :(


Tell me more, Anslo, what thing did you organize? Don't be cryptic.


From what I can tell, he mostly sits around faction warfare entry point systems in a 40 man fleet. Haven't really seen him anywhere else.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Anslo
Scope Works
#66 - 2014-03-11 02:04:13 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Anslo wrote:
We 'mouth breathers' did organize into a thing. We've been waiting to be 'put in our place as pubbies.' Sadly, highsec gankers dont seem to like low sec :(


Tell me more, Anslo, what thing did you organize? Don't be cryptic.


From what I can tell, he mostly sits around faction warfare entry point systems in a 40 man fleet. Haven't really seen him anywhere else.


Funny, we haven't seen you down here. Or is low sec too much for you to handle? I mean, we're just mouth breathing carebears after all :3

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#67 - 2014-03-11 02:09:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaarous Aldurald
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Anslo wrote:
We 'mouth breathers' did organize into a thing. We've been waiting to be 'put in our place as pubbies.' Sadly, highsec gankers dont seem to like low sec :(


Tell me more, Anslo, what thing did you organize? Don't be cryptic.


From what I can tell, he mostly sits around faction warfare entry point systems in a 40 man fleet. Haven't really seen him anywhere else.


Funny, we haven't seen you down here. Or is low sec too much for you to handle? I mean, we're just mouth breathing carebears after all :3


As my sig suggests, this is an alt. An alt that lives in wormhole space too, funny enough.

And you're not all carebears, nor did I say that. No clue where you got that from.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Anslo
Scope Works
#68 - 2014-03-11 02:16:39 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Haedonism Bot wrote:
Anslo wrote:
We 'mouth breathers' did organize into a thing. We've been waiting to be 'put in our place as pubbies.' Sadly, highsec gankers dont seem to like low sec :(


Tell me more, Anslo, what thing did you organize? Don't be cryptic.


From what I can tell, he mostly sits around faction warfare entry point systems in a 40 man fleet. Haven't really seen him anywhere else.


Funny, we haven't seen you down here. Or is low sec too much for you to handle? I mean, we're just mouth breathing carebears after all :3


As my sig suggests, this is an alt. An alt that lives in wormhole space too, funny enough.

And you're not all carebears, nor did I say that. No clue where you got that from.


God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.

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Matogg
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2014-03-11 02:21:15 UTC

Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
OP: Thank you for convincing me to come out of Ganker retirement.


HAW ! HAW ! HAW ! that was a good one Lol now tell me a western
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#70 - 2014-03-11 02:22:57 UTC
Anslo wrote:

God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.


You're awful touchy.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Anslo
Scope Works
#71 - 2014-03-11 02:35:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:

God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.


You're awful touchy.


So some pubbie asks you to fight and you back down. GG bro.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#72 - 2014-03-11 02:36:48 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:

God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.


You're awful touchy.


So some pubbie asks you to fight and you back down. GG bro.


I refused a 40 on 1 fight, for shame on me. Roll

And you claim we're the ones who only go after the low hanging fruit.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Anslo
Scope Works
#73 - 2014-03-11 02:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:

God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.


You're awful touchy.


So some pubbie asks you to fight and you back down. GG bro.


I refused a 40 on 1 fight, for shame on me. Roll

And you claim we're the ones who only go after the low hanging fruit.


Bring your fleet. Hell bring all the high sec griefer fleets.

EDIT: Unless someone actually shooting back is too much.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#74 - 2014-03-11 02:40:11 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:

God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.


You're awful touchy.


So some pubbie asks you to fight and you back down. GG bro.


I refused a 40 on 1 fight, for shame on me. Roll

And you claim we're the ones who only go after the low hanging fruit.


Bring your fleet. Hell bring all the high sec griefer fleets.


By definition, we are not griefers.

And you're being pretty transparent, btw. I honestly wonder why you think we need to prove anything to you. As if whelping a fleet of Catalysts (totally a fleet ship, totally) will change your mind.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Dexxel Farcry
Taggart Transdimensional
Virtue of Selfishness
#75 - 2014-03-11 02:41:09 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Anslo wrote:

God dammit back up your big talk about pvp in highsec and come ******* fight us.


You're awful touchy.


So some pubbie asks you to fight and you back down. GG bro.


I refused a 40 on 1 fight, for shame on me. Roll

And you claim we're the ones who only go after the low hanging fruit.


Bring your fleet. Hell bring all the high sec griefer fleets.

EDIT: Unless someone actually shooting back is too much.


You both loose, my weener is not only larger, but in higher demand. My fruit can't help but hang low.

Your move sassy pants.
Anslo
Scope Works
#76 - 2014-03-11 02:42:30 UTC
Because you talk a big talk, act like ganking/griefing is the most important thing in Eve and spew self righteous bullshit. This pubbie is calling you 'righteous' people of Eve out to fight against other pubbies, and you aren't showing up.

The fact you're trying to weasel your ******* way out of it discredits your whole little 'movement.'

tl;dr get rekt, nerd.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#77 - 2014-03-11 02:46:41 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Because you talk a big talk, act like ganking/griefing is the most important thing in Eve and spew self righteous bullshit. This pubbie is calling you 'righteous' people of Eve out to fight against other pubbies, and you aren't showing up.

The fact you're trying to weasel your ******* way out of it discredits your whole little 'movement.'

tl;dr get rekt, nerd.


And you talk big, while hiding behind a fleet blob the likes of which the typical player who wanders around lowsec cannot match, talking about how your playstyle is more important than mine, spewing self righteous bullshit about how you're somehow better than anyone else playing this video game.

I feel no reason to indulge your cute little tantrums, or the fact that you seem to believe the only way to fight is yours, and everyone else is badfeelsevilgriefer.

TL;DR: Settle down pubbie, it's a video game for crying out loud.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Anslo
Scope Works
#78 - 2014-03-11 02:48:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Yet you pride yourself in 'teaching carebears a lesson.' Can't fight what can fight back?

Nut up or shut up, griefer.

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Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#79 - 2014-03-11 02:49:36 UTC
For villains to exist in a game of villains, there must be victims and forums for victims to vent.

War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#80 - 2014-03-11 02:52:37 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Yet you pride yourself in 'teaching carebears a lesson.' Can't fight what can fight back?

Nut up or shut up, griefer.


And you pride yourself on being a fleet PvP'er. Your solution when I tell you I don't want to fight you 40 to 1? "Bring all the highsec griefer fleet".

Just shut up, hypocrite.

You can spout off as much as you want about "griefing", but you're just butthurt about James' RP. That's it.

Get over it, and get over yourself.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.