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Minor Stats modifications to skinned ships [Khanid Battleship Thread]
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Actaeon Versaea
#1 - 2014-03-06 20:51:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Actaeon Versaea
Having seen this morning's dev blog about ship skins, I though it over, and decided that the only skin I'd buy would be that of a Khanid skinned Battleship; However, even then, it wouldn't have the launcher bonuses....

So, CCP, is there any possibility of including minor stats changes to the skinned ship, so we could, for example, have a Khanid Skinned Battleship, that replaced the turrets and bonuses with launchers and comparable launcher bonuses? Perhaps do the same for other factions that have unique play styles and paints?

For Example, the Basic Apocalypse (7.5% Optimal Range, 7.5% Tracking, 8 Turrets) Would become 'Khanid Apoc ( 7.5% Missile flight time, 7.5% Explosion radius, 8 Launcher)
NearNihil
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
#2 - 2014-03-06 20:57:08 UTC
Skins, not new ships.

Changing a turret bonus to a missile bonus is a pretty major change and can be completely broken (for example having way more PG than usual after fitting missiles so you can fit 8 torp launchers, MJD, MWD and a full 1600plate tank or something) so I'll have to say no.
Actaeon Versaea
#3 - 2014-03-06 20:59:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Actaeon Versaea
NearNihil wrote:
Skins, not new ships.

Changing a turret bonus to a missile bonus is a pretty major change and can be completely broken (for example having way more PG than usual after fitting missiles so you can fit 8 torp launchers, MJD, MWD and a full 1600plate tank or something) so I'll have to say no.


The way the game is coded, each new skin requires a completely new instance to be created, although they could just copy and paste most of it, apart from the skin files. That said, I take you point.
I'd argue they could rebalanced the fitting stats too, but the work would stack up fast, I agree.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#4 - 2014-03-06 21:09:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
The answer is no. The current experiment is about if enough people are willing to pay in order to obtain cosmetic skins that working to revamp the way the server handles ship skins is a reasonable proposition financially.

Letting the new skins get mixed in with releases of new ships, issues of balancing, etc, etc would be the deathblow to what is currently an exploratory probe on how interested people are on the idea. Also contrary to the purpose of developing a system for cosmetic skins in the first place.

CCP can always release true new ships anytime they feel like it, let's keep that separate from he issue of new cosmetics.
Gigan Amilupar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-03-07 00:06:13 UTC
This wouldn't be new skins then, it would be new faction ships.
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#6 - 2014-03-07 00:30:41 UTC
Gigan Amilupar wrote:
This wouldn't be new skins then, it would be new faction ships.


This.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-03-07 00:51:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Changing a combat ship's entire weapon focus from one type to another is a huge change. I'm all for tiny changes, but not huge changes.

A tiny change could be in cutting some excess drone bay to add an excess launcher hardpoint (on a ship that can already fill all of its high slots with weapons), or it could be cutting the hull HP a tiny bit to add a tiny bit of max velocity, or maybe increasing max capacitor but reducing recharge rate. Things like that.

edit: I should specify that I am completely against ANY stats changes through Aurum. I don't care if it's 1 gram of mass. I was talking about stat adjustments for limited edition versions of vessels (like the Sarum Magnate, for instance) and I thought that's what the OP was talking about.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#8 - 2014-03-07 00:58:56 UTC
-5.

Don't try to destroy what the rest of us have spent the last 5+ years clamoring for CCP to give us. Your idea is the absolute and exact manifestation of what people DO NOT want in the NeX and what CCP promised would never happen.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#9 - 2014-03-07 01:11:35 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
-5.

Don't try to destroy what the rest of us have spent the last 5+ years clamoring for CCP to give us. Your idea is the absolute and exact manifestation of what people DO NOT want in the NeX and what CCP promised would never happen.


Exactly. Cosmetic changes only through Aurum. Never bonuses to character stats, respeccing, or ships/mods only available through Aurum.