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Kapytul Gaynez
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2014-03-08 21:19:59 UTC
Sion Kumitomo wrote:
Kapytul Gaynez wrote:
My intent was to imply that I don't think you are going to break the NDA. Maybe I did not imply hard enough. I, probably naively, assume that you wouldn't even run if you weren't sure you could resist the temptaion to talk. I suppose my real question is, do you have the willingness to recuse yourself from Coalition or Diplomatic talks if your CSM knowledge would color your decisions?


I'm curious as to what you mean here. What kind if situation do you envision where CSM knowledge might create a conflict with diplomatic talks?





Any number of admittedly unlikely but possible situations. When moon goo was switched around, presumably the CSM knew about it before anyone else did or maybe they plan on releasing something that majorly promotes "Farms and Fields" and you end up in an alliance or coalition planning discussion involving whether to expand territory or consolidate it. Maybe not be perfect examples but hopefully you get my point. You would have access to information that could directly benefit your Corp/Alliance/Coalition and even if you don't spread that info, it could still effect your stance in those decisions. Hopefully that was a little clearer. I am afraid that I am struggling to find a super coherent way of expressing my concern.
Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#22 - 2014-03-08 21:36:04 UTC
As a present CSM, you know that stuff, you weep internally, and you don't let it affect your decisions at all.

http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog
Kapytul Gaynez
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-03-09 04:46:19 UTC
Ali Aras wrote:
As a present CSM, you know that stuff, you weep internally, and you don't let it affect your decisions at all.


Seems like it would be easier to recuse yourself from being involved in that particular decision than trying to figure out what you would have suggested if you didn't know the future changes that will be involved.
Ali Aras
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#24 - 2014-03-09 05:32:36 UTC
I've done that too, but that risks giving away more than making the decision does. It's compartmentalization, same as anything else-- God, you want an example of that, just look at independent CSM campaigning! Everyone wants you to have an opinion on different areas of space and different aspects of balance in the game. Some of those are being looked into and worked on by CCP right now, and yet, those of us who're re-running explain how we think such-and-such should be changed and how we thing balance in so-and-so works.

Anyways, I'll let Sion post on his own thread, I just thought I'd chime in with the present-CSM perspective, as it's something I've actually had to deal with.

http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog
Kapytul Gaynez
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-03-09 05:42:34 UTC
Ali Aras wrote:
I've done that too, but that risks giving away more than making the decision does. It's compartmentalization, same as anything else-- God, you want an example of that, just look at independent CSM campaigning! Everyone wants you to have an opinion on different areas of space and different aspects of balance in the game. Some of those are being looked into and worked on by CCP right now, and yet, those of us who're re-running explain how we think such-and-such should be changed and how we thing balance in so-and-so works.

Anyways, I'll let Sion post on his own thread, I just thought I'd chime in with the present-CSM perspective, as it's something I've actually had to deal with.



I appreciate the input either way.
Eezee Gonozal
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-03-09 13:12:20 UTC
Sion had a presentation at Eve Down Under that was finally uploaded this week. If you are in any way intrested in space politics you should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPAP7RiwQc
Sion Kumitomo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-03-09 13:15:53 UTC
Tarek Raimo wrote:
Sion Kumitomo wrote:


In general, there are two major lines of thought on this. The first is that coalitions are ruining the game. The second is that EVE itself is broken.

[...]

The problem then is rooted in mechanics, incentives, and risks. The mechanics set a prohibitively high bar for the entry of more new players into 0.0. There's no real incentive, save ego, to hold space. The risks are simply too high to justify the gamble, given the rewards. This sets up a self perpetuating cycle of n+1 where the big get bigger, and the small are either assimilated or bulldozed.


Coming from that point-of-view, what would your major concerns and/or wishes be that you would express during a hypothetical meeting where CCP present you their vision for new space that can be reached via player-built stargates?


My primary concerns and wishes would be that it not be stupid. I'd expect something like you suggest to be exceptionally complicated with regards to interplay between it and the rest of the existing universe. What that might mean specifically, I'm not sure, and I'm in general not all that keen on speculating on top of speculations. So I suppose I'd listen to such a presentation and then start poking at to see what I think.

The issue is that a lot of what EVE has become in 0.0 is social evolution around game mechanics. CCP is, from what I've seen, pretty solid on the game mechanics front. But on the social evolution front, the psychology that underpins the motivations and actions of organizations and individuals doesn't appear to be something they grasp all that well. It's hard to blame them for that though, since they aren't privy to the extensive amount of out of game and back-channel communications and don't have to deal with in-game interactions between players, corps, alliances, and coalitions on a daily basis. They lack a lot of data points with which to extrapolate, and it is my intent to help fill in those gaps where necessary with my extensive experience in that particular area.

Kapytul Gaynez wrote:
Sion Kumitomo wrote:
Kapytul Gaynez wrote:
My intent was to imply that I don't think you are going to break the NDA. Maybe I did not imply hard enough. I, probably naively, assume that you wouldn't even run if you weren't sure you could resist the temptaion to talk. I suppose my real question is, do you have the willingness to recuse yourself from Coalition or Diplomatic talks if your CSM knowledge would color your decisions?


I'm curious as to what you mean here. What kind if situation do you envision where CSM knowledge might create a conflict with diplomatic talks?


Any number of admittedly unlikely but possible situations. When moon goo was switched around, presumably the CSM knew about it before anyone else did or maybe they plan on releasing something that majorly promotes "Farms and Fields" and you end up in an alliance or coalition planning discussion involving whether to expand territory or consolidate it. Maybe not be perfect examples but hopefully you get my point. You would have access to information that could directly benefit your Corp/Alliance/Coalition and even if you don't spread that info, it could still effect your stance in those decisions. Hopefully that was a little clearer. I am afraid that I am struggling to find a super coherent way of expressing my concern.


The kind of situations you envision are primarily mechanics based, it sounds like. The areas that such changes are likely to impact—logistics, finance, fleet command—aren't areas I handle directly. Without going too terribly far into our organizational setup, we have distinct departments that run specialized areas in Goonswarm. The particular area I'm in charge of is diplomacy, which is dealing with people and managing Goonswarm's external affairs. Mechanics have never really entered into that, and I don't expect they ever will. Additionally, it means I'm removed from the decisions made in our other departments as we let our specialists run their own show. So all I have to do is what I do currently and not overstep my internal purview. As Ali says, it is a matter of compartmentalization, which in my case is both structural and in my own noggin.

That and, you know, not wanting to be Darius III.

On twitter @siggonK
Sion Kumitomo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-03-09 13:18:44 UTC
For anyone a bit curious as to what it is that I do in game and how I see EVE, I spoke at EVE Down Under this year and gave a short presentation on just that. It can be found here: http://youtu.be/JxPAP7RiwQc

On twitter @siggonK
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-03-10 01:50:05 UTC
I spent a small amount of time speaking to Sion during EDU last year. This man radiates intelligence & power in an unsuspecting monotone dialogue. I have no doubts that EVE as a whole will be a better place with Sion on CSM9.

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mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-03-10 18:36:47 UTC
Kapytul Gaynez wrote:
Sion Kumitomo wrote:
Kapytul Gaynez wrote:
My intent was to imply that I don't think you are going to break the NDA. Maybe I did not imply hard enough. I, probably naively, assume that you wouldn't even run if you weren't sure you could resist the temptaion to talk. I suppose my real question is, do you have the willingness to recuse yourself from Coalition or Diplomatic talks if your CSM knowledge would color your decisions?


I'm curious as to what you mean here. What kind if situation do you envision where CSM knowledge might create a conflict with diplomatic talks?





Any number of admittedly unlikely but possible situations. When moon goo was switched around, presumably the CSM knew about it before anyone else did or maybe they plan on releasing something that majorly promotes "Farms and Fields" and you end up in an alliance or coalition planning discussion involving whether to expand territory or consolidate it. Maybe not be perfect examples but hopefully you get my point. You would have access to information that could directly benefit your Corp/Alliance/Coalition and even if you don't spread that info, it could still effect your stance in those decisions. Hopefully that was a little clearer. I am afraid that I am struggling to find a super coherent way of expressing my concern.


If anything I'm the one more prone to having to work around things, given I'm a GSF finance director. Bit my tongue so hard it bled when Siphons were in development even as we were rampaging through TEST space to take more moons What? Sometimes (as with that case) "say nothing" is the best course of action, other times (especially if seeker for direct input) you just gotta pretend "whatever" isn't happening and give your answer as such, since as Ali pointed out, refusing to comment can be just as telling...only one reason why you'd do that, after all.

And as Sion said, not wanting to be the next Darius III is a powerful motivator P

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#31 - 2014-03-10 18:39:22 UTC
It's a problem I solved by just saying "yes" to every question I'm asked about what CCP are doing.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Sion Kumitomo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2014-03-11 13:44:42 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
It's a problem I solved by just saying "yes" to every question I'm asked about what CCP are doing.


"Why doesn't CCP love me, Malcanis?"
"Yes."

On twitter @siggonK
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#33 - 2014-03-11 18:58:11 UTC
Well in that specific incidence I'd reframe your question to "Does CCP hate me".

And of course yes, yes they do.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Lakotnik
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#34 - 2014-03-13 15:19:24 UTC
Don't you think that if 12 out of 20 CSM's are basically from the same squad (CFC), that might impact on the changes that are going to be put through since the other 8 can never overrule you on decisions being put to CSM vote by CCP?
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-03-13 17:51:57 UTC
Lakotnik wrote:
Don't you think that if 12 out of 20 CSM's are basically from the same squad (CFC), that might impact on the changes that are going to be put through since the other 8 can never overrule you on decisions being put to CSM vote by CCP?

gotta call foul on that question

1) There are 14 of us, not 20

2) Pretty well the only thing we vote on is who is what officer position. After that everybody has a say if they step up and . . . well, say things. No vote.

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)/¯
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-03-13 19:21:13 UTC
As Mike said, it's 14 rather than 20. The CSM does not vote on the things CCP brings to us, we each give our own feedback. This often involves talking amongst ourselves and explaining our point of view in an effort to gain consensus, but the other thirteen are free to agree or disagree or ignore you as they see fit.

Plus by my count there are currently only five CFC members running for election anyway...

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#37 - 2014-03-13 23:44:16 UTC
mynnna wrote:
As Mike said, it's 14 rather than 20. The CSM does not vote on the things CCP brings to us, we each give our own feedback. This often involves talking amongst ourselves and explaining our point of view in an effort to gain consensus, but the other thirteen are free to agree or disagree or ignore you as they see fit.

Plus by my count there are currently only five CFC members running for election anyway...


Jack "Jack Gates" Gates hasn't put in his ticket, he runs on the ticket of "Guys I need this."

I've been on the bad end of Sion's gaze in times past, all I can say is he's fair, honest and looks at things at any angles you request of him.

There really isn't a better qualifier for a CSM member in my mind.
Sion Kumitomo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2014-03-14 16:53:32 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
mynnna wrote:
As Mike said, it's 14 rather than 20. The CSM does not vote on the things CCP brings to us, we each give our own feedback. This often involves talking amongst ourselves and explaining our point of view in an effort to gain consensus, but the other thirteen are free to agree or disagree or ignore you as they see fit.

Plus by my count there are currently only five CFC members running for election anyway...


Jack "Jack Gates" Gates hasn't put in his ticket, he runs on the ticket of "Guys I need this."

I've been on the bad end of Sion's gaze in times past, all I can say is he's fair, honest and looks at things at any angles you request of him.

There really isn't a better qualifier for a CSM member in my mind.


That's my motto, fair and balanced.

On twitter @siggonK
Sion Kumitomo
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2014-03-20 22:24:17 UTC
For those of you who would like to hear a little bit more about what life is like in Goonswarm, about our history, and some of what I do, Tyrant Scorn was gracious enough to have me on Legacy of a Capsuleer. It can be found here: http://youtu.be/1g3V9a7aUKg

On twitter @siggonK
Lanctharus Onzo
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2014-03-26 19:51:18 UTC
CSM9 Candidate Interview: Sion Kumitomo
http://www.capstable.net/2014/03/26/csm9sionkumitomo

Executive Editor, CSM Watch || Writer, Co-host of the Cap Stable Podcast || Twitter: @Lanctharus
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