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Dev blog: Ship Painting Pilot Program

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asteroidjas
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
#721 - 2014-03-27 17:27:00 UTC  |  Edited by: asteroidjas
Can you please PLEASE take this stuff away from NEX store and put it in LP stores.

If you (CCP) are counting the NeX store items as a success, i'd like to see the metrics i know you have available related to these new ship skins.

1. Pretty much the only option was to buy them from the NeX store. Not exactly a good measure of how well NeX store is good for seeding items as opposed to LP Stores. (granted, the ONLY LP Store item was the amazing COMET!)

2. How many of these skins were bought from the NeX store by the players who's sole interest was to resell them for profit, being a new/fresh item. How many of them have actually sold, compared to how many were bought from Nex?

3. How many of the NeX Store items have actually been applied, comparing that to the number that have been initially purchased?

As alot of ppl are repeating, why have micro-transactions in a pay-for game? What does our subscription money go toward if not for the development of content? (i think ship skins may count as game content)

Oh thats right, our subscription $ goes towards floating a model rifter and pod up to the higher-lower atmosphere (not "space" was claimed) since that really helps the code monkeys develop new in-game content or fix bugs...yeeup.
Noillia Durmot
Marginally Sinister
#722 - 2014-03-29 12:39:53 UTC
Having thought about this for a while I decided what I would like to see is the ability for corps, alliances or individuals to own colour schemes.

The way I see it working is that the CCP art department releases a colour scheme that can be applied to all ship types and an auction is held with the winner receiving a BPO for that colour scheme. The same colour scheme is never released again.

I would also love to see a corp or alliance logo on ships which can be changed for a small fee.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#723 - 2014-03-29 12:47:08 UTC
asteroidjas wrote:
Can you please PLEASE take this stuff away from NEX store and put it in LP stores.

If you (CCP) are counting the NeX store items as a success, i'd like to see the metrics i know you have available related to these new ship skins.

1. Pretty much the only option was to buy them from the NeX store. Not exactly a good measure of how well NeX store is good for seeding items as opposed to LP Stores. (granted, the ONLY LP Store item was the amazing COMET!)

2. How many of these skins were bought from the NeX store by the players who's sole interest was to resell them for profit, being a new/fresh item. How many of them have actually sold, compared to how many were bought from Nex?

3. How many of the NeX Store items have actually been applied, comparing that to the number that have been initially purchased?

As alot of ppl are repeating, why have micro-transactions in a pay-for game? What does our subscription money go toward if not for the development of content? (i think ship skins may count as game content)

Oh thats right, our subscription $ goes towards floating a model rifter and pod up to the higher-lower atmosphere (not "space" was claimed) since that really helps the code monkeys develop new in-game content or fix bugs...yeeup.


People want lost of things developed by CCP in eve, CCP only has a finite budget, People who want ship skins can pay for them as the profits from which can be used by CCP to create more ship skins and artwork for the game, not to mention some of it can be diverted into reinvigorating aspects of the core game we'd like to see changed.

The subscription model is fine, and to the credit of CCP the subs have never gone up in price since I've been playing (2008) despite the fact that real world costs are going up. The alternative is that subscriptions go up in price to fund all of the nifty stuff we'd like to see, but that would result in outrage from the players who aren't interested in the same stuff.

At least this way people are actually paying for the things they want.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...

Reaper Grimis
Boomers INC
#724 - 2014-03-30 13:24:17 UTC
I would like the option to paint my ships. this would be a fun thing to have in the game.. Paying for it sounds like a SCAM.
I believe a pilot should be able to configure his or her ships any way they want just like they change the look of there toon.
as far as market issues, when u repackage your ship to sell it goes back to the stock .

A cool thing would be to put murals like in ww2 times like they did on the B52s that would be sweet...

SO CCP Do it for the Fun of the game not for the CASH!Pirate
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#725 - 2014-03-30 20:56:22 UTC
I know that from messing around with Homeworld 2 tools that you can create various pin stripes for your characters race ships as well as being able to change the actual color of the ship.

Although I do not know exactly how the process works but I would assume changing the ship color is basically a filtered set of textures and alpha channels which could be easily added to the environment through the use of a Ship Paint Job Store where the pilot scrolls through the different color schemes much the same way that a pilot is able to adjust the pigment of their characters skin.

I would have to say that all faction type ships could not have their color adjusted but any T1 or T2 could have its paint changed.
Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
#726 - 2014-04-01 03:29:11 UTC
OMG... I always loved the EoM faction-skinned Amarr hulls, especially on the battleship-class ships. I was floored to see that the Kador line of ships has essentially the same paint job.

When this expands to cover the Armageddon, I'm definitely buying a new paint job.

The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth.

Kirito Litvyak
Doomheim
#727 - 2014-04-01 12:44:27 UTC
I demand a sexy red Roden Shipyards Megathron
Kubu Abu
D-sync
#728 - 2014-04-01 13:41:06 UTC
Woohoo more **** to load on the TiDi battlefield that still has yet to work after 7? years
Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
#729 - 2014-04-01 15:25:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jdestars
Good new .. we waiting 10 year for apply color on ship ,
This feature was implanted in 2003 in DB but never in production

somec couple of year after element in data & or .stuff are removed

and now its come back.; but but ... BUT BUT B .. with Plex , or Aur ..

so why can payd each year my subscription . arggg


Nota : thx to Dev with choice Python stackless for reduce lag code http://www.stackless.com/wiki and permit to recover some feature abandoned
Johan Force
HALO - United Nations Space Command
United Nations Space Covenant
#730 - 2014-04-02 02:00:41 UTC
I would like to see police skins for all ships. This way everyone can have the police ship they want. Thank you, Johan Force
Marqo D'Maryn
Octopus Rapid Shipping and Mercantile
#731 - 2014-04-03 20:50:30 UTC
The current kludge "with existing technology" is welcome, but ultimately I think the best way to do it will be to add paint slots to ships in the same way rig slots were added when rigs were introduced. That gets around having to have an entry in the market for EVERY paint variation (paint being lost when packaged), while adding a mechanic to mix and match. You could have one for pattern, main colour, secondary colour and maybe decals.
Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
#732 - 2014-04-05 23:19:00 UTC
While I do like the way of thinking that brings us new ship skins and perhaps one day player customized skins, I don't like the way it's implemented.

In the current system i have to pay real money for a ship skin that is likely to make my ship a prime target and is gone when I lose the ship.
No thank you!
In that case I'll stay with the standard skin which I don't notice anyway when I'm in a larger PvP battle.

The only way I could see me buying ships skins would be in a system that has a ship skin editor that is akin to the character editor that requires microtransactions to unlock various options - but after buying such an option that option would be permanent and would apply to all eligible ships.

Lord Eremet
The Seatbelts
#733 - 2014-04-06 10:38:55 UTC
Let us have the option to repaint the navy ships too, pls
Post Uta
Doomheim
#734 - 2014-04-06 17:31:17 UTC
Is there any information about new ORE Painting BPC?
Armin Arraeb
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#735 - 2014-04-10 11:48:12 UTC
I realy love the idea of a costumized ship! Ive been waiting for that sence ive startet to play EVE!!! Roll

But i have a suggestion to the way it is implemented.

You have added the paintet ship in to the market as a seperate ship with a special name. most likely this was the most easy way to do it. But i think, if you add more diferent paintings to the game, it will become confusing like that.

So here my suggestion:
Construct the paintings like a subsystem. Like that every ship would loose the painting if you repakage it. (the market stays clear) You could add a painting slot to every ship, to make it easy to add or change a painting.

Like this i could buy a painting and add it to the ship i want or even change the painting on the same ship.

You could add prerequisites to the paintings, so that you are able to define wich painting is aviaible for wich ship.


What do you think about this idea?
Myrthiis
Boon Odd Ducks Bath Toys
#736 - 2014-04-11 00:14:09 UTC
In my mind ship painting should be a new eve profession :)
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#737 - 2014-04-20 22:25:05 UTC  |  Edited by: DrysonBennington
Now that the Ship Painting Idea has taken hold I propose this.

Battle Damage Ship Painting

You would be able to add a Battle Damaged Paint Job Scheme to your ship in the same manner that you add the current paint scheme.

Hopefully CCP would be able to incorporate the Battle Damaged Paint Job Scheme into a LOD for each ship that way when your ship is fresh and new the battle damage wont appear until you are half way into armor.

Some other ideas to think about as it pertains to ship painting....hold on three rat BS on my tail....okay taken care of.

1. Battle Damage Skins - Choose from one of several battle damaged skins for your ship.

2. POS Tower Skins - the same as ship skins but for POS Towers.

3. POS Tower Battle Damage Skins - Choose from one of several battle damaged skins for your POS.

4. Container Skins - the same as ship skins but for jettisonable containers

5. Container Battle Damage Skins - Choose from one of several battle damaged skins for your Container.

6. Mobile Depot Skins - the same as ship skins but for Mobile Depots.

7. Mobile Depot Skins Battle Damage Skins - Choose from one of several battle damaged skins for your Mobile Depot.

8. Ship Mounted Weapons Skins - Choose from several skins either damaged or regular for your weapons.

9. POS Structure Skins - How cool would it be to have a battle damaged or brightly colored skinned Moon Mining Array?
DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#738 - 2014-05-02 20:44:06 UTC
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With the Ship Painting Program it wouldn't be difficult for CCP to add individually created logo's to the texture for a pilot. The individual logo would definitely cost more but would function the same apply the paint skin to your ship.



Has anyone brought up the idea about Pirate Paint Skins?

Pirate Paint Skins would probably be the most sought after type of ship skin in New Eden.

Pirate Ship Skins could only be found in low sector space at any type of site from anomalies to ghost sites.

I think CCP should also give consideration to opening up the forums for discussion revolving around a Ship Skin Contest where the top ten winners would receive prizes similar to those awarded in the Deviant Art Create a Starship contest.

....and bound them in their bones....there, the sepulchral tone has been blown.


Furoth
Black Avarice
Skeletons in the Closet
#739 - 2014-05-03 00:31:02 UTC
The skins are a nice start. Although I hate the caldari versions. They all look rust splotched to me. The abaddon on the other hand is amazing. Truly worth a gallon of drool.

I'd like to see customizable skinning in the future. Pick a color and reflectivity of a ship panel or panel group and tweak it til satisfied then pay the customization fee. I don't know how really unique skins could be done within EvE. I've seen a 'Hello Kitty' scorp that made me laugh (sorry no link) but it proves there is plenty of imagination out there and even more in the way of possibilities.

Can't wait to see what comes next.
Bohneik Itohn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#740 - 2014-05-04 19:20:27 UTC
Furoth wrote:
The skins are a nice start. Although I hate the caldari versions. They all look rust splotched to me. The abaddon on the other hand is amazing. Truly worth a gallon of drool.

I'd like to see customizable skinning in the future. Pick a color and reflectivity of a ship panel or panel group and tweak it til satisfied then pay the customization fee. I don't know how really unique skins could be done within EvE. I've seen a 'Hello Kitty' scorp that made me laugh (sorry no link) but it proves there is plenty of imagination out there and even more in the way of possibilities.

Can't wait to see what comes next.



And what you wish to see was announced as being worked on and in progress during the second day of the fanfest, so now just sit and wait patiently. =)

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