Wormholes

This is how I feel. I've been in a C2 w c1/hs statics for 6mo or so. When we get enough pilots trained to T3s we'll probably move to a C3 or something with a C3 static. We're small and all of us new to whs. 6mo isn't that much time in Eve and I don't feel personally that I can comment much on wh community issues other than to say POS permissions sucketh.

We like fighting and making friends though. Also long walks on the hisec and being dropped on by cloaky T3 fleets on the way home.

I have to take everyone's word for it on the risk/profit. We make plenty of isk just farming the C1 we have. We're not space rich, but make enough to fuel the tower and our lust for ships. When we find a C5 we hunt it the way we would any other hole. But when we see 10 people in the C5 , we take our tiny squad and go somewhere else. And that seems to be a big difference, at least in the stories told, between higher class whs and lower. We've had a few of what I would consider straight up fights. They've known we're there and we know they are there and we pew pew it out. But by and large our fights are ganks. We find a guy or 3 running sites, compose a fleet, get a cloaky warpin and drop on them. Usually there is little doubt about the outcome. The only time I've been surprised is the Tengu's tank we couldn't break.

Just finished up an article about C4's and a role they could serve within the greater wormhole community. Feel free to give it a read at our own wormhole news site no-local.com, provide feedback, share your thoughts, or simply feel free to troll. If you enjoy the read, please share that feedback as well, as it motivates me to write more

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Could you elaborate?

For the record, in case anyone wishes to apply thought to the "why is this C6 alliance guy trying to change C4's, what does he know about them?", I'd like to clarify that my second wormhole was a C4-C4, and I cut my teeth in C4 space. I wanted to get that out of the way :)

This is the only area of contention I really have. I don't have a problem with C4's getting another static but let's face it, it's the C5 corps that want it and veil it behind the term "greater interaction"

However if you dare to suggest C5 and C6's get a dual static (thus massively increasing the interaction) you get nayed, ignored, told to shut up etc. .........

I know it increases the security risks in the C5 (Lets face it one guy in a cov ops can really open a can of worms by gridding both) but isn't that the whole point?

The greater interaction is not going to come with increasing statics in C4's. If the corp inside sees a new sig they may still pos up or log off and they'll keep their statics ungridded for as long as they need to now.

I would suggest concentrating on things that got broken and making a case for them to be re-established rather than going straight at C4's. Instasigs are what has really dented WH pew in a huge way and that's where you need to start in my never humble opinion.

For the record I am a minority C4 resident with C2 static who actually likes pvp

I might be in the minority, but I would love to have 2 statics in my c5.

I agree... although I don't really like the idea of CCP suddenly changing the space around me. I would prefer if they gave me the ability to create my own "second static".

@Proclus Diadochu
C4s have a very unique feeling. They don’t get any wandering WHs ever and no K162s from k-space. This often makes them pipe or dead end systems. As statics they offer organized groups good income and a chance to grow in a relative calm environment.

Adding a 2nd static as you suggest (up and down) would drastically change all that. Currently all connections from and to a C4 are 2 bil mass WHs. This means it takes 7 BS to close/crit. them. Very tough to maintain WH-control even against a mildly pvp oriented C5 or C6 static, don’t you think?

Adding wandering WHs to C4s however would get my vote.

If our C6 had another static, say a C5, I would cry happy tears.

First up, it's cool seeing this many people talking W-Space

As I've said somewhere else, just because you give C4'ers an extra static doesn't mean they'll use it. I still need a reason to poke my head upwards. I'd gladly take another lower static though.

Sleeper running in someone elses lower wh is probably one of the most dangerous things you can do in EvE. not only do you have the worries of running sites in your own hole, K162's open statics that you thought were closed, people who hide out in your system for a days on end, there's also the worry that the locals will come online and hit you. Many people log out in POS, some do not. You really only have the time it takes them to swap ship and warp to you to react. If they log out in something they feel happy to engage you with, then you get no warning.

Also stepping down to a Drake or somesuch doesn't lower the main risk with running sites anywhere for small groups. The risk of getting podded. For larger groups, this isn't a big deal, it's 15mins to a couple of days in HS. There's enough actives and alts aroundt o safely get back in. For smaller groups, this can mean losing the entire POS if you're down on actives or enough of you get podded out at a time. As I mentioned in the other thread around, I'd like to see an emergency limited number way to jumpclone back in. Something that's expensive enough that you don't want it to be the main way of travelling back in, but still low enough that if the worst happens, you can get back in and fight still. I know CCP was talking briefly a bit back on having different types of clones to help fix the issue of older players having naked clones worth more than the ship they're flying. An emergency clone that's slightly gimped somehow could be cool for this. This'd also be a cool use for all those corpses I have in my hangar...

Extending escalations across all WH's somehow would be good, with how far it escalates changing depending on class. It's smooth out the Isk division between the C1-4 and C5/6. Maybe even modify it somehow off ship numbers as opposed to capitals. Maybe Tech3 hulls in the site? Something other than cap proliferation, we really don't need more of those....

Also to the CSM members floating around, who are the CCP WH devs? Are there any? It's be nice to know if they exist as we don't get may Blue Tags around these parts. We've had some changes lately that I feel have negatively impacted W-Space and it'd be good to know that there's an internal dev who lives our lives. More so with the biggest change to WH's coming up in the Tech3 rebalance.

A very neat read. I agree that it would make access to C5-C6 space much easier and probably incentivize more ninja siterunning and C320/C540 gas mining, and hopefully more pew as a result.

It would be a tad OP in my opinion though, particularly systems with C1/C2 low-class statics which are likelier to go to hisec. It would certainly raise the real estate value of C4 space