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CSM Campaign who are you voting for?

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Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#221 - 2014-03-16 18:07:27 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Is the Mittani an option?

We're all Mittens alts!

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#222 - 2014-03-16 18:24:41 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Is the Mittani an option?

We're all Mittens alts!


Seriously! I thought everyone was a mittens alt. You arent?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#223 - 2014-03-16 18:29:19 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Is the Mittani an option?

We're all Mittens alts!


Seriously! I thought everyone was a mittens alt. You arent?

Depends on who you ask actually...lol

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Serene Repose
#224 - 2014-03-16 19:31:42 UTC
Watch the watch. Watch the watch. Watch the watch.

You will all vote for me.

When I count three, you'll all wake up and send me all your stuff.

one...two...THREE!

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#225 - 2014-03-16 20:10:51 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
Watch the watch. Watch the watch. Watch the watch.

You will all vote for me.

When I count three, you'll all wake up and send me all your stuff.

one...two...THREE!
What're you gonna do if they start taking you seriously? Cool

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Serene Repose
#226 - 2014-03-16 20:16:35 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
Watch the watch. Watch the watch. Watch the watch.

You will all vote for me.

When I count three, you'll all wake up and send me all your stuff.

one...two...THREE!
What're you gonna do if they start taking you seriously? Cool
I'll pretend to be a Mittani alt. No. Wait. My vocabulary is too LARGE.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
#227 - 2014-03-16 20:26:31 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
I'm voting for me, naturally. Anybody else who wants real representation from a guaranteed Not A CCP Lackey, vote for me, too.

I always wanted to go to.....ICE-land. (Vegas, you'll just have to wait.)


It doesn't matter who we vote for the csm minutes are so heavily nda we won't know what the **** they are all doing for us in anycase.

Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction...
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#228 - 2014-03-16 23:22:21 UTC
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:
Serene Repose wrote:
I'm voting for me, naturally. Anybody else who wants real representation from a guaranteed Not A CCP Lackey, vote for me, too.

I always wanted to go to.....ICE-land. (Vegas, you'll just have to wait.)


It doesn't matter who we vote for the csm minutes are so heavily nda we won't know what the **** they are all doing for us in anycase.


heh

maybe

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Divine Entervention
Doomheim
#229 - 2014-03-16 23:28:22 UTC
Every single CSM candidate has sent me ISK telling me that if I vote for them they'll send me even more.

I'm not sure but are the CSM candidates suppose to be buying our votes? What's the going rate on votes?

I'll get a bunch of alts and vote for them if the price per vote is high enough.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#230 - 2014-03-16 23:37:02 UTC
Divine Entervention wrote:
Every single CSM candidate has sent me ISK telling me that if I vote for them they'll send me even more.

I'm not sure but are the CSM candidates suppose to be buying our votes? What's the going rate on votes?

I'll get a bunch of alts and vote for them if the price per vote is high enough.



I only wish I had the ISK to buy votes. (Not that I would. I have other things I'd spend it on. Capital component blueprints are expensive.)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Angeleh
Silverflames
#231 - 2014-03-17 05:25:27 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
What efforts have you ever made to even try and see if we've done anything?


If you read my post, it is not about if you have done anything, it is about whose interests you serve and what parts of the community you are from.

But I have spend hours reading about CSM on these boards, and I am not impressed with the impression CSM has left on the average person uttering their voice on here.


Malcanis wrote:
Man you're not even cynical. You're just lazy. [snip] You've spent 2 minutes making a poorly thought out, wholly uninformed forum post.


Seems you know as little about me as you do about what it actually said in my post.

Malcanis wrote:
I'd estimate that CSM8 between us put in something like 10,000 hours this year.


On what?

If you think CSM brings anything good, I would be glad to hear about it. But just throwing around words like "wholly uninformed" and calling people that don't think CSM is a good idea for lazy without even reading what they are writing is not work I have any respect for, if that is what your hours are spend on you are just glorified forum trolls with a show off tag.

I have played the game, and in there is CSM not apparent, and I would like my representatives to be from people I spend my time with in game, be that working together with or just hanging around chatting with while doing separate stuff. People that spend all their time on forums and not hanging out in game does not have interests that are compatible with mine, and therefore represents my interests very poorly.

I made a new character, spend my 30 days in Rookie Help, hang around in 3 permanent career specific channels (2 different careers) and 3 permanent mostly social channels, in the last 3 months I have not heard CSM mentioned in game. This makes CSM fall into the general problem with being a group chosen by people that spend a lot of their time on the forum while people who just want the game and don't care about forums are not represented at all. Just like in every other MMO with such a elected group - and as mentioned, I have yet to see it ever work well.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#232 - 2014-03-17 05:41:36 UTC
Angeleh:

Then run yourself, and do something about it. If the people on the CSM didn't represent enough people, they wouldn't have been elected in the first place.

But right now your only complaint is "You're not doing anything for me!", which is not only untrue, but asinine as well.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Sarah McKnobbo
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#233 - 2014-03-17 05:58:15 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
I only wish I had the ISK to buy votes.


You shouldn't have spent it on that snazzy new suit!
Angeleh
Silverflames
#234 - 2014-03-17 07:36:32 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
If the people on the CSM didn't represent enough people, they wouldn't have been elected in the first place.


What is enough people? I am not really sure I think 10% of the playing accounts is enough.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#235 - 2014-03-17 07:42:44 UTC
Angeleh wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
If the people on the CSM didn't represent enough people, they wouldn't have been elected in the first place.


What is enough people? I am not really sure I think 10% of the playing accounts is enough.


It sure is if people like you don't bother to do anything about it.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#236 - 2014-03-17 12:30:30 UTC
Angeleh wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
What efforts have you ever made to even try and see if we've done anything?


If you read my post, it is not about if you have done anything, it is about whose interests you serve and what parts of the community you are from.

But I have spend hours reading about CSM on these boards, and I am not impressed with the impression CSM has left on the average person uttering their voice on here.


Malcanis wrote:
Man you're not even cynical. You're just lazy. [snip] You've spent 2 minutes making a poorly thought out, wholly uninformed forum post.


Seems you know as little about me as you do about what it actually said in my post.

Malcanis wrote:
I'd estimate that CSM8 between us put in something like 10,000 hours this year.


On what?

If you think CSM brings anything good, I would be glad to hear about it. But just throwing around words like "wholly uninformed" and calling people that don't think CSM is a good idea for lazy without even reading what they are writing is not work I have any respect for, if that is what your hours are spend on you are just glorified forum trolls with a show off tag.

I have played the game, and in there is CSM not apparent, and I would like my representatives to be from people I spend my time with in game, be that working together with or just hanging around chatting with while doing separate stuff. People that spend all their time on forums and not hanging out in game does not have interests that are compatible with mine, and therefore represents my interests very poorly.

I made a new character, spend my 30 days in Rookie Help, hang around in 3 permanent career specific channels (2 different careers) and 3 permanent mostly social channels, in the last 3 months I have not heard CSM mentioned in game. This makes CSM fall into the general problem with being a group chosen by people that spend a lot of their time on the forum while people who just want the game and don't care about forums are not represented at all. Just like in every other MMO with such a elected group - and as mentioned, I have yet to see it ever work well.


We blog, we post, we hold public town hall meetings on EVE radio, we even publish summit meeting minutes, given enough time; I really don't know else you can reasonably expect from us. Frankly it feels like you want me to individually contact each player and have a personal coversation with them once a month or so.

What do you think we should be doing that you definitely know that we aren't?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#237 - 2014-03-17 13:22:36 UTC
Sarah McKnobbo wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
I only wish I had the ISK to buy votes.


You shouldn't have spent it on that snazzy new suit!



Spiffy, isn't it? Smile Came with my copy of Eve Source.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#238 - 2014-03-17 13:51:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Divine Entervention wrote:
Every single CSM candidate has sent me ISK telling me that if I vote for them they'll send me even more.


yeah that's an impressive bounty you got there, for a new guy.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#239 - 2014-03-17 14:25:24 UTC
Angeleh wrote:
What is enough people? I am not really sure I think 10% of the playing accounts is enough.

That's 40–50,000 accounts. You can get a good representative sample from as few as 2,000. So 10% is more than enough.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#240 - 2014-03-17 14:28:51 UTC
Angeleh wrote:
I have played the game, and in there is CSM not apparent, and I would like my representatives to be from people I spend my time with in game, be that working together with or just hanging around chatting with while doing separate stuff. People that spend all their time on forums and not hanging out in game does not have interests that are compatible with mine, and therefore represents my interests very poorly.

I made a new character, spend my 30 days in Rookie Help, hang around in 3 permanent career specific channels (2 different careers) and 3 permanent mostly social channels, in the last 3 months I have not heard CSM mentioned in game. This makes CSM fall into the general problem with being a group chosen by people that spend a lot of their time on the forum while people who just want the game and don't care about forums are not represented at all. Just like in every other MMO with such a elected group - and as mentioned, I have yet to see it ever work well.

For what it's worth:
Mangala Solaris is - amongst other things - leading, or at least flying with, RvB Ganked fleets about every Saturday.

I personally have had ingame contact (chat, evemail or in space) with at least Mangala, Ali Aras, Mike Azariah, Chitsa Jason, James Argent and Trebor Daehdoow.

Of course they have their own social circles in which they play. After spending hours doing work for CCP and us, you gotta grant them that they actually want to _play_ the game when they have the chance.
That said, I'm sure most will be answering eve mails or accepting convos. Assuming they aren't in the middle of a fight :)