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LAG LAG LAG - SOCKET CLOSED

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James Tzashi
Sturmgrenadier Inc
Pandemic Horde
#41 - 2014-03-05 15:14:18 UTC
well i havnt had any socket close issues untill the 28th and since then ive dced about 4 times and each time 1000s of people have done it at the exact same time. im in amarr atm and i saw it go from 450 to-320 then back to 450. some of my alts dc some dont so i dont know whats going on.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2014-03-05 15:15:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Zaknussem wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:

time to pay off whoever is doing this, it's starting to kill your business.


Good luck with that, some people just like to watch the galaxy burn.

When lulzsec ddosed EVE they made sure everyone knew about it, same when DERP ddosed Phantomlord (and EVE got caught in the crossfire). This time nobody is taking credit which makes me doubt the "watching the world burn" story.

On the other hand using frequent ddos attacks to blackmail/extract a protection fee from a relatively small MMO provider such as CCP makes a lot of sense to me - they have limited means to protect against DDOS attacks (compared to giants like Blizzard) and frequent disruptions of service do really threaten their business.

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corporal hicks
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2014-03-05 15:16:57 UTC
TKL HUN wrote:
I (and not just me) had this "Socket closed" thing started way before the first recent "DDOS" attack...

IMO, the question is, how long can you blame everything on DDOS attacks?


Blaming DDOS attacks for the problems is all well and good but then depriving paying customers of a paid for service and blaming DDOS attacks is not good.

While CCP can't control the attacks, like any good business they should compensate the paying customers for the disruption caused by said attacks, like any business events beyond the control of the business are the business's problem not the customers.


Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2014-03-05 15:17:17 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Zaknussem wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:

time to pay off whoever is doing this, it's starting to kill your business.


Good luck with that, some people just like to watch the galaxy burn.

When lulzsec ddosed EVE they made sure everyone knew about it, same when DERP ddosed Phantomlord (and EVE got caught in the crossfire). This time nobody is taking credit which makes me doubt the "watching the world burn" story.

On the other hand using frequent ddos attacks to blackmail/extract a protection fee from a relatively small MMO provider such as CCP makes a lot of sense to me - they have limited means to protect against DDOS attacks (compared to giants like Blizzard) and frequent disruptions of service do really threaten their business.


in other words ccp is ******?and players pay the price for ccp`s mistakes of not having proper protection.you would think they learned something from the first "ddos" atack a while back
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2014-03-05 15:21:30 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:

On the other hand using frequent ddos attacks to blackmail/extract a protection fee from a relatively small MMO provider such as CCP makes a lot of sense to me - they have limited means to protect against DDOS attacks (compared to giants like Blizzard) and frequent disruptions of service do really threaten their business.



Yeah, I was thinking blackmailers too. That happens all the time with sites that need high uptime %s - for example, sports gambling sites get ddosed during the world cup something horrendous.

I know a lot of gambling sites in the past have just paid up, because it's sometimes not a lot of money demanded. They'll never admit it though, just makes them a target for others.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2014-03-05 15:22:34 UTC
Jureth22 wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
Zaknussem wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:

time to pay off whoever is doing this, it's starting to kill your business.


Good luck with that, some people just like to watch the galaxy burn.

When lulzsec ddosed EVE they made sure everyone knew about it, same when DERP ddosed Phantomlord (and EVE got caught in the crossfire). This time nobody is taking credit which makes me doubt the "watching the world burn" story.

On the other hand using frequent ddos attacks to blackmail/extract a protection fee from a relatively small MMO provider such as CCP makes a lot of sense to me - they have limited means to protect against DDOS attacks (compared to giants like Blizzard) and frequent disruptions of service do really threaten their business.


in other words ccp is ******?and players pay the price for ccp`s mistakes of not having proper protection.you would think they learned something from the first "ddos" atack a while back


There is no protection from ddos.

CCP owe us nothing, be grateful they have not shut down the servers for the last 5 days.
Starbuck1771
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2014-03-05 15:24:05 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:
The most up to date official information can be found on the EVE_Status twitter account: https://twitter.com/EVE_status

As usual of late, this round of network issues was caused by a DDoS attack.

Scam to boost CCP's follower count. A smart Dev team would put important info like this on the community forums which is the logical place for it.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2014-03-05 15:26:56 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


There is no protection from ddos.

protect was maybe a bad word, I considered editing it to mitigate but by that point someone had already quoted my post so I left it as is.

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ashley Eoner
#49 - 2014-03-05 15:45:12 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Good grief, you lot have the worst entitlement complex I've ever seen...

Yeah how dare we expect good customer service from a company we're paying..


Next thing you know people will be demanding products be somewhat safe..
Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2014-03-05 16:00:00 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Jureth22 wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
Zaknussem wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:

time to pay off whoever is doing this, it's starting to kill your business.


Good luck with that, some people just like to watch the galaxy burn.

When lulzsec ddosed EVE they made sure everyone knew about it, same when DERP ddosed Phantomlord (and EVE got caught in the crossfire). This time nobody is taking credit which makes me doubt the "watching the world burn" story.

On the other hand using frequent ddos attacks to blackmail/extract a protection fee from a relatively small MMO provider such as CCP makes a lot of sense to me - they have limited means to protect against DDOS attacks (compared to giants like Blizzard) and frequent disruptions of service do really threaten their business.


in other words ccp is ******?and players pay the price for ccp`s mistakes of not having proper protection.you would think they learned something from the first "ddos" atack a while back


There is no protection from ddos.

CCP owe us nothing, be grateful they have not shut down the servers for the last 5 days.


actualy,you are so mistaken.but its understandable,you are goon
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#51 - 2014-03-05 16:08:33 UTC
DDOS attack map

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Muestereate
Minions LLC
#52 - 2014-03-05 16:13:30 UTC
has anybody thought that all our attacks and complaint look like tears? If our attackers have anywhere near as warped sense of satisfaction as ourselves our forum threads are probably being reposted for lulz.

Time to get real fellas and HTFU
Rainbow Dash
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-03-05 16:38:40 UTC
Jureth22 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Jureth22 wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:

When lulzsec ddosed EVE they made sure everyone knew about it, same when DERP ddosed Phantomlord (and EVE got caught in the crossfire). This time nobody is taking credit which makes me doubt the "watching the world burn" story.

On the other hand using frequent ddos attacks to blackmail/extract a protection fee from a relatively small MMO provider such as CCP makes a lot of sense to me - they have limited means to protect against DDOS attacks (compared to giants like Blizzard) and frequent disruptions of service do really threaten their business.


in other words ccp is ******?and players pay the price for ccp`s mistakes of not having proper protection.you would think they learned something from the first "ddos" atack a while back


There is no protection from ddos.

CCP owe us nothing, be grateful they have not shut down the servers for the last 5 days.


actualy,you are so mistaken.but its understandable,you are goon


If you've discovered a way to protect servers from a DDOS attack while still connected to the internet, the congratulations, you're going to become very wealthy, since no one else on the planet has been able to do that. (null routing doesn't count).

Also, if you actually pay say $100 to DDOSers to stop an attack, then the next day they'll come back saying "we want $1000", then "we want $10,000" the next day, until you run out of cash. Seriously, paying just puts a huge target on your back saying DDOS FOR FREE MONEY.
Yashua Yaweh
PUTIN LOVE
#54 - 2014-03-05 17:09:41 UTC
Ha i don't think anyone here would want CCP or any other company to give in to demands (if any were made) i'd sooner the servers were shut down for a week. CCP would reimburse for any substantial loss to players.

Its probably more likely some little spotty spec wearing **** bag that didn't get enough hugs and kiss's from mummy and daddy, and is masturbating to these comments that's doing it.
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
#55 - 2014-03-05 17:16:36 UTC
I told my wife EVE was suffering from DDos attacks. She looked at me with a large (and almost evil) smile.
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#56 - 2014-03-05 17:18:04 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
CCP Fozzie wrote:
The most up to date official information can be found on the EVE_Status twitter account: https://twitter.com/EVE_status

As usual of late, this round of network issues was caused by a DDoS attack.

time to pay off whoever is doing this, it's starting to kill your business.


You mean it's time for a Merc contract.
Yashua Yaweh
PUTIN LOVE
#57 - 2014-03-05 17:18:26 UTC
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
I told my wife EVE was suffering from DDos attacks. She looked at me with a large (and almost evil) smile.



Lmao... dam i might have to actually spend time with mine tonight if it gets worse:(

Holy crap now im scared
Jureth22
EVE-RO
Goonswarm Federation
#58 - 2014-03-05 17:27:43 UTC
Yashua Yaweh wrote:
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
I told my wife EVE was suffering from DDos attacks. She looked at me with a large (and almost evil) smile.



Lmao... dam i might have to actually spend time with mine tonight if it gets worse:(

Holy crap now im scared


what the hell is wrong with you people?
Yashua Yaweh
PUTIN LOVE
#59 - 2014-03-05 17:40:33 UTC
Jureth22 wrote:
Yashua Yaweh wrote:
Dragon Outlaw wrote:
I told my wife EVE was suffering from DDos attacks. She looked at me with a large (and almost evil) smile.



Lmao... dam i might have to actually spend time with mine tonight if it gets worse:(

Holy crap now im scared


what the hell is wrong with you people?



hey man after 2 kids and 15yrs of convos about makeup and fashion its easier to use her like a bank and make frequent deposits only!!!!


Hole in the wall!!
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2014-03-05 18:36:14 UTC
**** this ****, i want isk and skillpoints!