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Ben Hatton
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-03-05 06:43:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ben Hatton
This guy couldnt be an Eve player going forward, he would never 'get' it. But, I cant help but feel the second round was a step over the line. This dude was clearly spending alot of real money and he was scammed out of it, I know its all technically legit but it just doesnt sit right with me really.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-03-05 06:45:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Benny Ohu
Silivar Karkun wrote:
well the guy clearly was an idiot but he doesnt deserves to be scammed like that.........the killmail should have been enough........

anyone willing to allow themselves to be scammed like that deserved to be scammed like that

anyone willing to scam someone like that deserves a new raven
WASPY69
Xerum.
#23 - 2014-03-05 06:47:15 UTC
Hahahaha

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#24 - 2014-03-05 07:34:53 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
well the guy clearly was an idiot but he doesnt deserves to be scammed like that.........the killmail should have been enough........


Yeah, horseshit. NOTHING excuses irl threats.

You wanna know why I post on an alt, and not on my first character? It's not because I fear reprisal in game for my speech on the forums. It's because I once got a picture of my house emailed to me after scamming someone.

So that apologist crap doesn't fly with me. It's not "bullying" or whatever buzzword the entitlement generation whelps use these days. It's a ****ing videogame.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2014-03-05 07:41:01 UTC
Shh guys or that dude will find every 1 of us with his magical powers.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#26 - 2014-03-05 07:46:32 UTC
Yet another new player who should have read the Day 0 advice for new players thread.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-03-05 07:47:30 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
i understand this game is like real life


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-03-05 08:02:05 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
He might use his Lawyer super powers to find you in real life.


You said "super powers". Did you mean to say "subpoena powers"? I recall the sum $1300 ocurring in the story somewhere. That's grand larceny. If it is happening systematically, that's called "racketeering".

Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
NOTHING excuses irl threats.


I think you're imagining things. What threat did he make, exactly?

This seems like a good time and place to ask: How awesome would it be if real people were sent to real prison for in-game actions? How many new subscribers would CCP get for THAT story in the Wall Street Journal? It would be totally epic.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#29 - 2014-03-05 08:12:25 UTC
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:

I think you're imagining things. What threat did he make, exactly?


Jimblidge wrote:


I've begun to look for my killers, worldwide, in the real life


There you go.

You can blather on about how you think getting ganked in a videogame is grand larceny, but what he said is genuinely a crime.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Muestereate
Minions LLC
#30 - 2014-03-05 08:31:39 UTC
I have to wonder who sold him his gtc's
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#31 - 2014-03-05 09:05:32 UTC
"THE ARE TOO MUCH VIOLENCE IN THE REAL LIFE JET, TO LOOK FOR IT IN A GAME TOO. IT'S ONLY A GAME AND A GAME MUST BE REMAIN.
MAYBE YOU AR THINKING THAT I'M A DREAMER, MAYBE YES, BUT I CAN'T FIND ENJOY IN A DEATH, ALTHOUGH IT IS A GAME DEATH, BEHIND A KEYBOARD THERE IS EVER A MAN OR WOMAN.
THIS IS MY THOUGHT, NEXT DECISION IS YOURS."

Law Degree. Sounds legit.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0
Mayhaw Morgan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#32 - 2014-03-05 09:06:34 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Jimblidge wrote:
I've begun to look for my killers, worldwide, in real life
There you go.

You can blather on about how you think getting ganked in a videogame is grand larceny, but what he said is genuinely a crime.


Looking for people is not a crime (most especially when they're bad people), and, it's not even a threat. Are you afraid of human-human interaction? Because, then, maybe you shouldn't play EVE Online. Human interaction is kind of its a major selling point.

I personally hope he finds his killers. I hope he is able to persuade them to give him back his stuffz, and maybe even make them see the error of their ways. No one is beyond redemption; I always say. That would be a really heart-warming and feel-good story, although not as sensational as if they went to the big house for grand larceny.

In any event, I think all the bad things you do in-game (or out-of-game) are weighing on and worrying your mind and conscience. It's making your paranoid.
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2014-03-05 09:14:00 UTC
bump . lets troll this guy out of eve.

http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif
Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#34 - 2014-03-05 09:16:28 UTC
1300 $ on plexes and plexes prices increased from 500 mill to 650 mill.

guys be nicer stop gank him so he will flood the market with more cheap plex please :)))
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2014-03-05 09:20:50 UTC
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Jimblidge wrote:
I've begun to look for my killers, worldwide, in real life
There you go.

You can blather on about how you think getting ganked in a videogame is grand larceny, but what he said is genuinely a crime.


Looking for people is not a crime (most especially when they're bad people), and, it's not even a threat. Are you afraid of human-human interaction? Because, then, maybe you shouldn't play EVE Online. Human interaction is kind of its a major selling point.

I personally hope he finds his killers. I hope he is able to persuade them to give him back his stuffz, and maybe even make them see the error of their ways. No one is beyond redemption; I always say. That would be a really heart-warming and feel-good story, although not as sensational as if they went to the big house for grand larceny.

In any event, I think all the bad things you do in-game (or out-of-game) are weighing on and worrying your mind and conscience. It's making your paranoid.


Who said they're bad people? What makes the people who ganked him bad people worth hunting? And regarding your earlier commentary, what makes you think what people do in a game deserves jail time in reality? What kind of fascist are you?

"Oh noes!! They exploded space pixels and took my space moniez!! THE HORROR!!"

What I think is that you have too many alts because you lack the security of self to post with the same character. Pretty sure I've seen this idiotic Game=Reality spiel somewhere before. You, my friend, are quite disconnected from reality, it would seem.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Inari Visas
Federal Navy Academy
#36 - 2014-03-05 09:23:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Inari Visas
The lawyer said his "threats" were said out of anger, and that he didn't meant them really (which we can all relate to, I'm sure). Talk about stereotypes here. Respect is a two way street, and for an elite gaming community, we sure can be childish douches sometimes.

Goddmamn, he lost over 1000$... He was actually robbed. The absence of morality there is astounding. Oh well, eve be eve.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#37 - 2014-03-05 09:24:45 UTC
I'll admit to making my mistakes in EVE when I started. Somebody told me; here's some free ore. My catalyst buddy is just here to protect me against pirates. You can take the ore man. Don't be so paranoid. BOOM!! bye bye Osprey.

This.... I mean.... I feel super-pro right now
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#38 - 2014-03-05 09:27:09 UTC
Mayhaw Morgan wrote:

Looking for people is not a crime (most especially when they're bad people), and, it's not even a threat.


Ah, so if they did mean things to you in a videogame, that's when it becomes ok to stalk people. Roll

Gotcha.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#39 - 2014-03-05 09:37:15 UTC
So...lose a 45bn ship, then 60bn in scams. In a day.

I'm just going to say it. If this guy is a lawyer, I sincerely hope I'm never his client. "Sorry, I accidentally pled guilty. And then made another whoopsy and requested the death penalty for you. Can I have my fee now? I need it to go back to flipping burgers."

I had to laugh at the "hunting them in real life" threat. Honestly. It's highly unlikely that somebody would actually be able to do that in the first place, and secondly if somebody gets that wound up by a video game they are even less likely to be able to function in the real world to a degree that would afford them the resources to carry out the threat.

Also, to the person wittering on about "grand larceny" and "racketeering". Ho ho. I laughed so hard that a little bit of pee came out.

[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*

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Salvos Rhoska
#40 - 2014-03-05 09:46:51 UTC
Incredible...

Its idiots like this that make scamming worthwhile the effort.

Proves true yet again the old adage of uncertain origin, that:
"There's a sucker born every minute"
(Which is literally true as well as metaphorically, since sucking on a teat is the first thing every newborn does anyways)

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