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Help Goblin Defeat Goons by Giving Him Trillions

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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#161 - 2014-03-19 12:53:20 UTC
and because he's busy flushing his money down the toilet as fast as he possibly can the disparity in wealth between him and us is only expanding :sun:

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Louis Robichaud
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#162 - 2014-03-19 13:45:35 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Twenty Five Percent wrote:
Erotica 1 wrote:
Twenty Five Percent wrote:
So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step?


More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet.


But the question remains: does one man have enough isk to affect the gameplay (defeat) of 18,000 real people? I believe the presentation by Sion at EVE Down Under put the CFC numbers at around 18k real people and 36k characters.

Can one man defeat so many in a video game? And should he be able to?

Or is he just a laughing stock and delusional?


The premise of your questions is that one man can, through the application of his isk, bring about the defeat of a group of arbitrary size. Supposing that is true, it is then reasonable to conclude that the opposite is true - that in the very narrowest of cases, another individual could utilize his own isk to block or prevent the defeat of that same group.

In that case, Gevlon's goal is clearly doomed, as I alone am several times wealthier than him. So are my fellow directors of finance. So are many other goons, and the number at least as wealthy as him is even larger still. Blink


I usually find "look how big my wallet is!!" posts to be a tad crass, but in this case it is eminently relevant. Amusingly enough, it's also an argument that he could understand.

Maybe he's going to have to spend the next few years making more isk :D

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Isabela Valentine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#163 - 2014-03-19 14:10:20 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Garven Dreis wrote:
I heard a rumour that Gevlon Goblin got scammed out of an alliance, any truth to that? Now's it's a ~high sec~ mercenary alliance with an anti-goon bias.
True story bro.

Apparently it isn't a "Marmite 2" alliance, even though it operates in exactly the same way no besides recruitment. Apparently if General Lemming wanted a 2nd Marmite corp, he would just merge everyone into Marmite, thou with how incredibly precious their efficiency is to them, I'd very much doubt that.

The long and short of it though is that Lemmings is now the Marmite noobie corp that allows lower efficiency. Once you show you can camp Jita and dock fast enough when in trouble you'll get moved to Marmite. Both corps will continue to be mercenaries to the same extent that Marmite currently does (so none, since nobody in their right mind considers Marmite's an actual merc corp), and they will both shoot goons (as they have done for years). Gevlon will be some, but less of their war bills (as reality and his weird method of working out his profit margins seem to be conflicting and the donations aren't pouring in like he expected).



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Powers Sa
#164 - 2014-03-24 10:43:31 UTC
You guys, Danalee joined razor.






help.




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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#165 - 2014-03-24 13:20:14 UTC
lol, weird.
If you can't beat them, join them maybe? Or really bad spai!

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Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#166 - 2014-03-24 13:33:48 UTC
Eh. Marmite was always about the money and easy kills. I dont think they care enough about the end goal of one moronic goblin.

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#167 - 2014-03-24 13:33:50 UTC
Another "shocking" monday blog post...

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Bayonnefrog
Blueprint Mania
#168 - 2014-03-24 14:32:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Bayonnefrog
I used to support the Goblin character on the POCO thing but after the "victory" post I am against him. How can you declare victory when they're still there? and they still receive income from them? Makes no sense.

I feel like the parameters of "victory" are changed by him to whatever is convenient.
Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#169 - 2014-03-24 17:58:02 UTC
All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)

gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#170 - 2014-03-24 22:35:53 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)

gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value.
Well with you being "obviously created by goons", that surely means the goons still own them right? Or could it possibly be that he was wrong? He wrote so... many... posts on it, so it must be true right?

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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#171 - 2014-03-24 22:43:30 UTC
Do you think if Gevlon owned all the pocos, he would tax the **** out of them?

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#172 - 2014-03-24 22:47:54 UTC
Professor Clio wrote:
All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)

gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value.


He can't claim victory without back-pedalling and admitting that RvB aren't secretly goons, or he has to admit "goons" still own them.

Oh... Wait a minute. He already moved the goalposts again and claimed the whole thing was about making them go away as monuments.

So, despite the fact he didn't take them, and the people he was grrrrrr-ing about still own them, he has won. Again.

To be fair it was clear he was scrambling for an 'out' the moment he realised that he would need to actually timer-fight for them, which is a fight he knows he would never ever win.

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Doomheim
#173 - 2014-03-25 03:30:30 UTC
This might be serious enough for me to get involved in. I'll look at all the facts and determine is there's enough serious PVP in it for me.

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Powers Sa
#174 - 2014-03-25 09:26:38 UTC
hint: there isn't. I formed fleets for every poco timer block. No challenge was presented.

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Joseph Soprano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2014-03-25 10:35:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Joseph Soprano
@Professor Clio
'All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb.'
In the interest of you (RvB) not sounding like the Goon Highsec Poco Division can you may wish to expand on that?

@Khanh'rhh
'He can't claim victory without back-pedalling and admitting that RvB aren't secretly goons, or he has to admit "goons" still own them.'
Also the goons can't really claim they still owned the Pocos without 'outing' the RvB as goons can they? While the goons can probably cook up some good excuse as to why the Pocos moving to RvB was a victory to the vast majority of people this seems more like a defeat.

'To be fair it was clear he was scrambling for an 'out' the moment he realised that he would need to actually timer-fight for them, which is a fight he knows he would never ever win.'
You seem to be saying the goons still own these Pocos as you say he could never remove these from goon ownership. Professor Clio seems to think RvB has acquired them .... oh wait?

EDIT : Thx to Professor Clio for expanding :)
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#176 - 2014-03-25 11:12:23 UTC
Man, I know I confused you by making whether 'Goons = RvB' conditional on your own level of tinfoil, but you seem to have done both at the same time and wrapped yourself up in your own illogic.

So to break it down into Eve-O readable language:

Gevlon said goons were bad people and wanted to take our POCOs
Gevlon said RvB were bad people, because they were goons.
RvB still own all the POCOs
ergo, by Gevlon's narrative, Goons still own all the POCOs.

Of course whether "we" own them or not has since become unimportant, as he moved the goalposts to "taking the Goonswarm tag off them".

Gevlon has neatly proved two things:
- You can do anything when you set your mind to it declare your win conditions after observing the outcome
- That there's a large umber of people in high-sec who will believe literally anything you tell them.

Guys from Marmite liked my posts where I called Gevlon delusional, and that he was being played for a fool, so that, plus the fact they eventually told him to get lost, shows they were just in it for the free wardecs. But goddamn, a lot of you clowns in Lemmings were eating that **** up. It was pretty hilarious.

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Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#177 - 2014-03-25 11:28:50 UTC
FYI I'm using the past tense, since now you're relegated to just another station camping group, no one cares where you are or what you're doing.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#178 - 2014-03-25 12:02:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Clio
Joseph Soprano wrote:
@Professor Clio
'All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb.'
In the interest of you (RvB) not sounding like the Goon Highsec Poco Division can you may wish to expand on that?



When I say aquired I mean precisely that. Goon POCOs were all transfered to RvB. In exchange we sent them a one time isk payment. From now on all isk coming from these POCOs stays in RvB.

We like the goons a lot, it was a pleasure working with them on this. I think the feeling is mutual on their end.I have to especially commend Powers for having the stamina to keep organising those rep ops for so long. That said the RvBee POCO agreement is dead since there's no longer a bee part.
Joseph Soprano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#179 - 2014-03-25 12:20:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Joseph Soprano
Joseph Soprano wrote:
@Professor Clio
'All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb.'
In the interest of you (RvB) not sounding like the Goon Highsec Poco Division can you may wish to expand on that?

@Khanh'rhh
'He can't claim victory without back-pedalling and admitting that RvB aren't secretly goons, or he has to admit "goons" still own them.'
Also the goons can't really claim they still owned the Pocos without 'outing' the RvB as goons can they? While the goons can probably cook up some good excuse as to why the Pocos moving to RvB was a victory to the vast majority of people this seems more like a defeat.

'To be fair it was clear he was scrambling for an 'out' the moment he realised that he would need to actually timer-fight for them, which is a fight he knows he would never ever win.'
You seem to be saying the goons still own these Pocos as you say he could never remove these from goon ownership. Professor Clio seems to think RvB has acquired them .... oh wait?


Thx to Professor Clio for expanding on RvB's official line.

@Khanh'rhh
Sorry I must have missed the bit were you said you were fleeing back to null sec because ..... and that you claim you no longer own those pocos because....
Powers Sa
#180 - 2014-03-25 17:33:16 UTC
None of us have left, we ganked 3 orcas today, we ganked tengus the day before that, miners tengus and mauraders the day before that, and so on.

The fact that your CEO messaged me and offered to kick gevlon out of his own highsec wardec alliance was pretty telling.

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