Intergalactic Summit

Yet so many people seem to think that such an incident and report of such will appear not 48 hours after the inciting event.

You misunderstand me on three counts.

First, you seem to believe that I think this task easy. No. I explicitly said it would be hard, but that people motivated by righteous outrage and with the courage of their convictions would do it anyway. The intended implication here is that the people who are so incredibly outraged will in fact do nothing despite all their claims of outrage, and that they lack their claimed dedication to faith, or morality, or whatever other thing might motivate them to take action and live up to their words.

Second, you seem to believe that I expect results now, or soon. No. I expect results never. I will be happily satisfied, and publicly admit to having been proven wrong, if results occur before this incident fades from public memory. In the five years that I have been monitoring the IGS and The Summit, one may count on one hand the number of times public outrage or personal offense, no matter how intensely claimed were the motivations, actually lead to kill mails.

Third, you seem to believe that I am motivated to action against this man. No. I am quite content to identify myself as an amoral goon, and on top of that I am pragmatic. What this man has done in a day, many other capsuleers have done in a day but without drawing attention to themselves.

So that there is no ambiguity, I will be clear and explicit.

This man has killed a million humans, in pursuit of a cause that he believes in. Many capsuleers, be they enthusiastic ratters, mission runners, faction warriors, or nullsec soldiers, have killed many times more humans, and many of them were not even doing it for a cause they believe in. Some people will draw a line here between "combatants" or "criminals" versus "innocents," because we love distinctions. But whether one destroys a few hundred Guristas battleships, a couple dozen Starbase facilities or mission structures, or several hundred capsuleer-crewed ships, or a million humans herded into shipping containers, the result is a lot of dead humans. In either event, whether in "justified" killing or "unjustified" killing, there are a lot of lost lives; a lot of grieving friends; a lot of broken homes and broken hearts. At least this man did all of that fully cognizant of what he was doing and in the pursuit of what he believes is a higher goal. Faction warriors, mission runners, ratters, and sovereignty grinders by contrast often do it for the selfish pursuit of money rewards, or simply because they were told to.

I have two assertions:

First, that I do not at all condemn this man for what he has done; in fact, I applaud that he has the courage of his convictions.
Second, that his detractors are impotent loudmouths who lack both the convictions they claim and the courage to act on them.

I hope this clears up everything.

Agreed with you up to here. First, if shooting containers with defenseless people and self destructing your own ship is courageous, then I have to say you have a very low standard when it comes to bravery. Nothing wrong with that of course. If you genuinely believe it was an act of courage, I or anyone else can't really do or say anything that will make you change your mind. But we both can agree you are one of the few people who share that opinion.

Second, there are many ways to act other than a kill mail. Granted, if you are claiming you are going to hunt Nauplius down yet never get around to doing it, then you are full of ****. I for one know that I'm a lot better with money than I am with hunting people down, so I'll just go ahead and give someone a profit incentive to go after him.

Look at your leader, The Mitanni. He talks about sending massive fleets to exterminate his opponents but when was the last time he actually flew in one of those fleets? He rants about how high-security citizens are a blight on the cluster, yet has he even "suicide ganked" a miner before? No, he gets other people to do it for him. That's what I hope to accomplish with the Nauplius Retirement Fund and what other capsuleers' hope to accomplish with their own agendas. For example, PIE is making Nauplius a kill on sight target. The person making that declaration isn't going to shoot him, but a PIE member flying around certainly will.

Thinking that you need to kill someone to back up what you say is about as primitive as you can get.

And the time before that? A common criticism people seem to have of The Mitanni, even those who follow him, is that he doesn't make many public appearances. It's often said he rose to power and conquered nullsec without even getting in his pod. Which is actually quite an accomplishment.


So he killed a bunch of pirates while everyone was suicide ganking miners for him?



I fail to see what was offensive about what I said. I never mentioned Rodj Blake and I thought I was quite generous to The Mitanni. Even I, an enemy of Goonswarm, has to admire The Mitanni's leadership, administrative skills, and overall cunning. He doesn't lead from the front lines, because he's better elsewhere.



Do elaborate.

You cannot be this daft. He was the top killer. Of miners. Via suicide ganking. In space. With a spaceship.


I sincerely doubt that either would appreciate comparison to the other.

It is possible I misunderstood your intention. I take great exception to people who bluster and do nothing, and it seemed as though you were accusing The Mittani of doing exactly that with your comparison to others. If that was not your intention, then there is in fact nothing more to speak of on the matter. As to throwing money at problems, by all means! Perhaps self interest will motivate people in a way that faith and morality would not.

Considering that most of his rantings have nothing to do with the actual Amarrian Faith and instead look more like, oh, what a TLF propagandist would spew about a Faith in which he actually knows nothing about... and that actual Sani Sabik members have come on IGS and they have also apparently claimed no kinship with him as well... the evidence pointing to him actually being a Republic paid "false-flag" agent would appear to be growing more convincing. It is either them or the EoM (who have yet to speak up).

Also consider that having a spy within the 24th Crusade would benefit the TLF greatly, even one who is so obvious, simply because they would still have access to at least listen in on their more open communications channels and be aware of Amarrian ship movements & defenses within our complexes.

Though a good spy does not so blatantly attract attention to themselves, unless the Republic feels that his value as an anti-Amarrian propaganda piece outweighs his utility as an actual spy against the 24th. Having looked at the latest results of the faction warfare zone, I would say that this is quite likely. Perhaps he is simply acting as a consolation prize, trying to smear the 24th Crusade's name at a time when their military victories are an apex?

I would not be the least bit surprised to find that his one million slaves all turned out to be Matari from the Republic who had been convicted of practicing the Amarrian Faith, and this was their government's way of sentencing them all to death whilst still allowing them a hollow sense of deniability, as per standard practice?

Lt . Kernher shot down Nauplius in Ezzara at 00:43 on the 11th of March.

Unfortunately, due to the automated nature of the Amarr Militia Standings system, PIE inc. can only afford a symbolic gesture or two in his direction. We are petitioning the relevant authorities on the matter, given his clear conversion to Blood Raider Heresy.

I am pleased to hear this! Send the Lieutenant my congratulations on a successful hunt! Did she manage to pod him? I'm considering purchasing his frozen corpse.

No worries! I'm sure you'll nab him another time! For now, congrats on a job well done!