Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was really, really hoping that was not a Marlona Sky thread.... but it was.

I'm still half convinced he thought that up as the most magnificent troll thread starter I have seen in months until the "Why are people so mean to me on the forums" thread of the past few days, which had 80% of the posts purged upon ISD review. Twice.



Both of them may be advocating a form of power projection nerf, but I promise you Mynna is too sensible to support something as drastic as Marlona's PPP concept which reduced the daily jumpable limit to less than the distance of most regions.

I think most people are against a nerf as strong as one jump a day. I thnk any system would have to allow you to go from the deepest hole in null to low-sec in a reasonable play session. The trick is finding a balance that prevents using the same fleet to cover half of the map, low-sec included. A lot fo proposed solutions also completely screw Jump Freighters and orgs like Black Frog. It is a tough problemt o find a balanced solution to.

I think a Limit on the jumps is bad in General. A more feasible approach would be a Spool down for the engines. Not whipeable by Station tricks. Maybe a Passive recharge rate for jump drives to be able to respool up before they can move. Other ideas would be shifting Sov mechanics a bit. For example systems degrade overtime if not being used they can drop from mil 5 to 4 etc if ignored. If systems get tweaked to have to be used in order to hold them.. For example of X alliance holds X system and does nothing with it, The planets toss the Sovereignty holders and regain the system to neutrality. This could also be escalated by including Dust514 into this mode.. Where X alliance hires X Dust bunny corp to go and cause Chaos in an area... Maybe helping push the system to want to rise up against it's current Holders. The easiest way to Curb Power Projection is to increase the used mechanics in an area. If suddenly it becomes to taxing to hold onto hundreds of systems, Alliances and coalitions will want to have less. From what I seen most alliances only use a fraction of there held space.. If you make them actually have to use the systems the hold in order to hold onto them. It might force them to reduce what they have for easier management. You could have the same Degredation mechanics. In order to hold Sov 5 X amount of things have to be consistantly Done. If it drops Below Sov 1.. the systems drops in itself. Make the mechanics something that the Corp in that area has to work towards but keep the reward equal to the grind. Yes, It introduces more work for an alliance.. But its only as much work as the alliance wants to do. But it also has to be to a point where smaller blocks wanting to enter aren't overwhelmed. Maybe a Sliding Scale.. The higher amount of systems you get, the more taxing it is to hold. 0-25 systems is this much grind... 26-50 is X grind etc. Or scale the costs to hold them even higher. The more you hold.. the higher it scales. But it would be feasible if your members were doing decent work to hold it. If your sitting at a few thousand members it wouldn't be that much of a grind to hold. If you have a few thousand and only a few dozen to hundred are active.. That grind would be more of a pain. Keeps alliances Trimmed between Active and occasional players while still opening more space up for newer entities to enter. Entities arent going to want to warp all over space if there working to keep there space and the riches it holds. Your not going to want to hold more then you can manage.

Cyno bandwith:
Jump carrier to cyno, carrier lights cyno, fleet jumps, rinse repeat. LO consumption will never matter past the initial cause carriers will be carrying far more than could ever be used.

Reduced ability to travel to reinforce a fight nearby or hotdrop other capitals without then seeing it's coming. Reduced ability to quickly respond to local events. Less effect on reinforcing long distance fleets. For moving to stratops in advance of a timer, 10 minutes or less per midpoint is perfectly acceptable in practice.

Titans at both ends:
Nobody bridges there, fleets are forced to go in through normal gates, gate control becomes paramount, defenders sit at gates, nobody jumps in, back to 2010 bullshit of fleets sitting at gates unable to jump in without being massacred and turning around and leaving. **** that.

Edit: Strangehawk, use some spaces, nobody got time to ready something like that without a shred of formatting.