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Fix AAR
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Danny John-Peter
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#21 - 2014-03-06 14:53:23 UTC
Catherine Laartii wrote:
Deerin wrote:
A small comparison:

Small AAR:

Fitting 5 CPU 5 PG
Overheated:
Reps 171.6 Armor each 3.825 seconds, has 8 charges
Reps 1372 Armor with a single magazine in 30.6 seconds
Uses 320 cap for a total of 8 charges.

Medium ASB:

Fitting: 50CPU 12 PG
Overheated:
Reps 160.6 Shield each 2.55 seconds, has 9 charges
Reps 1445 Shield with a magazine in 23 Seconds
Uses no cap.

Small AAR costs almost nothing fittingwise if you compare it to a MASB. There are very few frigs that can easily fit MASB without any fitting mods.

Furthermore the auxillary nano pumps are boosting the total amount of a SAAR reps with a very small pg drawback. Cap is usually not a VERY big issue as a typical frig fight usually ends by 30-35 seconds.

Last but not least, you get free med slots when using SAAR, which are invaluable.

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About the dual MASB Hawk:

Do not be misled by numbers in EFT. EFT shows a tank of 541 dps overheated. This is only for 23 seconds. If you are planning to drag out the fight by staggering the MASB's, you need to run one booster for 60 seconds, the another for 60 seconds. So 541*23/120=104 dps effective tank during a long fight....not really impressive at all. MASB Hawk should be realised as a buffer ship.


Quite a few caldari ships can fairly easily fit dual MASB; the tradeoff issue that gets raised is that they generally don't have the buffer to withstand anything resembling moderate to high dps that can reach them. I suppose you make a fairly valid point with the usage factor with AARs on frigates, but again, I'm not just limiting this debate to frigates; I can see an enormous potential for use on cruiser/bc with more than one AAR, especially with ships like the myrmidon. Care to comment on their usage with medium to large sizes? I do like the stats you put out, btw.


You ignore what, to be honest, was the most important point in this thread.

The AAR is good because mid slots are god in frigate level combat, anything that gives you a more effective low slot tank is amazing.
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